(09-05-2024, 03:03 PM)Redgirl Wrote: Well I will be sat on the banks of the Trent Saturday afternoon watching the world go by, eating my burger and thanking God I’m not sat outside a soulless Bowl in a car park half way to Sheepland…can’t believe we’re even thinking about it!

(09-05-2024, 05:01 PM)Sausage Roll Wrote:

(09-05-2024, 03:43 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote: I am dead against this moving idea.

Call me old fashioned or accuse me of living in the past I don't care.

Why do we need a ground the size of Man City, Man United, Arsenal, Tottenham and Liverpool?

Lets be honest we are never going to win the league.

'My desire is always to be here, oh City Ground'.

It might be unrealistic but I can't imagine Marinakis thinks like that.

(09-05-2024, 05:10 PM)JollyLolly Wrote: Like SR comments, I think your man would like to move to a new setting and all that it brings commercially Sniffer!

(10-05-2024, 08:34 AM)optimistic_red Wrote: This whole "soulless bowl" narrative needs to go, watching the Olympiacos game last night, their bowl looked rocking!
Wasn't too long ago the atmosphere at City ground was pretty poor.

That said, I'd rather we stay and improve, and I think that Athletic article was put out to help negotiations with council and to soften fans opinion of move.

(10-05-2024, 08:34 AM)optimistic_red Wrote: This whole "soulless bowl" narrative needs to go, watching the Olympiacos game last night, their bowl looked rocking!
Wasn't too long ago the atmosphere at City ground was pretty poor.

That said, I'd rather we stay and improve, and I think that Athletic article was put out to help negotiations with council and to soften fans opinion of move.

(10-05-2024, 08:57 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote:

(10-05-2024, 08:34 AM)optimistic_red Wrote: This whole "soulless bowl" narrative needs to go, watching the Olympiacos game last night, their bowl looked rocking!
Wasn't too long ago the atmosphere at City ground was pretty poor.

That said, I'd rather we stay and improve, and I think that Athletic article was put out to help negotiations with council and to soften fans opinion of move.

I dunno I think there is some substance to the narrative.

If the team is struggling or if we drop back into the Championship and we have 10,000 empty seats then it could become a soulless bowl. Hopefully that would never happen but I don't think anyone would be too surprised if it did.

Last night it was a European Semi Final, it wasn't Bournemouth at home on a Tuesday night. Also Greeks are much more passionate and have more fire in their bellies than the English. We shouldn't really compare the two things because it's not really a fair comparison.

(09-05-2024, 08:52 PM)DR Forest Wrote: I’m not sure I trust the new chairman.

Mind you, I certainly didn’t trust the last one.

(10-05-2024, 10:25 AM)Username Wrote:

(10-05-2024, 08:34 AM)optimistic_red Wrote: This whole "soulless bowl" narrative needs to go, watching the Olympiacos game last night, their bowl looked rocking!
Wasn't too long ago the atmosphere at City ground was pretty poor.

That said, I'd rather we stay and improve, and I think that Athletic article was put out to help negotiations with council and to soften fans opinion of move.

Do you go to many away games?

How many grounds have you been to?

It’s not a narrative it’s a fact. 

If your experience of new stadiums is watching on TV where they strategically place microphones or the playoff final then that’s not the weekly reality. 

I was speaking to a number of West Ham and Spurs fans last week, they hate it despite the enhanced facilities. 

Other clubs are envious of what we have.

(10-05-2024, 01:41 PM)optimistic_red Wrote:

(10-05-2024, 10:25 AM)Username Wrote:

(10-05-2024, 08:34 AM)optimistic_red Wrote: This whole "soulless bowl" narrative needs to go, watching the Olympiacos game last night, their bowl looked rocking!
Wasn't too long ago the atmosphere at City ground was pretty poor.

That said, I'd rather we stay and improve, and I think that Athletic article was put out to help negotiations with council and to soften fans opinion of move.

Do you go to many away games?

How many grounds have you been to?

It’s not a narrative it’s a fact. 

If your experience of new stadiums is watching on TV where they strategically place microphones or the playoff final then that’s not the weekly reality. 

I was speaking to a number of West Ham and Spurs fans last week, they hate it despite the enhanced facilities. 

Other clubs are envious of what we have.

I go to Away games if I can get a ticket, which is hard these days. 4 this year, 6 last, more in the championship.

I have been to both West Ham and Tottenham's stadiums. The West Ham stadium is terrible for Football, it's there to make mega money and get 5K+ tourists. Way to far away from pitch. Tottenham is a great stadium, but they have priced out a large number of "traditional" fans.

There are many reasons for a good or bad atmosphere.

(09-05-2024, 06:57 PM)ozzyten10 Wrote: “We’ve been very clear with Forest that the council is legally bound by the need to seek best value for taxpayers — no local authority can subsidise a Premier League football club. We’re seeking market rate for the site, nothing more, which is in line with our statutory requirements.

Forest are being offered sites that are bigger - with better infrastructure for much less. Yes forest want the free hold but the council are overpricing it by miles and judging it on the value of it as residential land for the whole plot having worked out what forest are calculating for the residential part of the development. They argue that is the market rate for prime waterfront property. However - without the vast proportion of it being the stadium this isn’t a fair market rate at all. Without the stadium is it really worth as much?

Trent bridge - brings in 1 or 2 big events a year.

The truth lies somewhere in the middle here.

(11-05-2024, 01:09 PM)ozzyten10 Wrote: I think the Radcliffe on soar power station has been on the radar ever since we partnered with EON - suits both parties…‘sustainability’