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RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Paplane - 16-12-2019
(16-12-2019, 09:06 AM)Duncan Mckenzie Wrote:(16-12-2019, 12:53 AM)zicorice Wrote: First blip and we bottle it......again.
Sabri is the man for us even if we lose the next 2 or 3 games. Hold our nerve for once and reap the benefits.
I agree Zico. Lets not panic and overreact. It's not as if we have lost 6 games on the bounce.
We haven't and at any other club it'd be ridiculous to think of sacking the coach but it's the timing of this slump that's not in Sabri's favour. Two weeks before the transfer window opens and at the same time that golden boy Silva is suddenly available.
I'm afraid that this trigger happy chairman's instincts will be to grab his favourite coach at a time when he can furnish him with players for a promotion push.
Fingers crossed Sabri's made a good impression. Why do we have to go thorough this shite every Winter?
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Alf - 16-12-2019
If he does go bring Billy back as manager, Pearce as DOF.
Despite what anyone says we all know that as a football manager Billy gets the most out of what he's given at this level. He's batshiz mencal and no ones gonna try and pinch him off us.
Pearce would have us a Prem squad for relatively little within 2 years. Plus he'd help keep Davies in line too.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Paplane - 16-12-2019
(16-12-2019, 06:13 PM)Alf Wrote: If he does go bring Billy back as manager, Pearce as DOF.
Despite what anyone says we all know that as a football manager Billy gets the most out of what he's given at this level. He's batshiz mencal and no ones gonna try and pinch him off us.
Pearce would have us a Prem squad for relatively little within 2 years. Plus he'd help keep Davies in line too.
As we found out with MoN, the game's moved on a lot in the last few years so any talk of Billy is just silly.
I don't really want to be discussing Sabri's replacement but between you and I, my preferred choice would be Silva.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Alf - 16-12-2019
(16-12-2019, 06:28 PM)Paplane Wrote:(16-12-2019, 06:13 PM)Alf Wrote: If he does go bring Billy back as manager, Pearce as DOF.
Despite what anyone says we all know that as a football manager Billy gets the most out of what he's given at this level. He's batshiz mencal and no ones gonna try and pinch him off us.
Pearce would have us a Prem squad for relatively little within 2 years. Plus he'd help keep Davies in line too.
As we found out with MoN, the game's moved on a lot in the last few years so any talk of Billy is just silly.
I don't really want to be discussing Sabri's replacement but between you and I, my preferred choice would be Silva.
Regardless of the manager, I really don't think the game has moved on much at all since 2013. Not in this league.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Strawberry Avenger - 16-12-2019
(16-12-2019, 08:47 PM)Alf Wrote:(16-12-2019, 06:28 PM)Paplane Wrote:(16-12-2019, 06:13 PM)Alf Wrote: If he does go bring Billy back as manager, Pearce as DOF.
Despite what anyone says we all know that as a football manager Billy gets the most out of what he's given at this level. He's batshiz mencal and no ones gonna try and pinch him off us.
Pearce would have us a Prem squad for relatively little within 2 years. Plus he'd help keep Davies in line too.
As we found out with MoN, the game's moved on a lot in the last few years so any talk of Billy is just silly.
I don't really want to be discussing Sabri's replacement but between you and I, my preferred choice would be Silva.
Regardless of the manager, I really don't think the game has moved on much at all since 2013. Not in this league.
Did we find out about MoN? I don't think we did.
7th. 8th. 9th.
Two of those managers had a pre-season. MoN did not.
Two of those managers had a full and proper transfer window based off that pre-season.
Two of those managers had had more time and their squad, their team. Their players.
Two of those managers had a clean start at the beginning of the season.
It's not a fair comparison.
Is the football any better than MoN's? Has the Championship 'moved' on vs Aitor or MoN? Or The Coach?
The more things change the more they stay the same...in some ways.
MoN shored up the defence. But due to a lack of attacking options....say....wait a minute....
...aren't Forest still short of attacking options?
What team has only one major quality striker to win promotion with?
We're 8th. A vast improvement on 9th.
SA.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Marinakis Red - 16-12-2019
Were not going to attract Silva to the championship. Right now we should not be contemplating changing managers
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Alf - 16-12-2019
Totally agree SA.
I've taken the whaz a few times with some about how they wanted MON gone, and essentially we've got him in French form, right down to benching Carvalho.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Strawberry Avenger - 16-12-2019
(16-12-2019, 09:17 PM)Karanka red Wrote: Were not going to attract Silva to the championship. Right now we should not be contemplating changing managers
Deja Vu.
SA.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Marinakis Red - 16-12-2019
(16-12-2019, 09:29 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote:(16-12-2019, 09:17 PM)Karanka red Wrote: Were not going to attract Silva to the championship. Right now we should not be contemplating changing managers
Deja Vu.
SA.
True, anything is possible! Shock possible?
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - ozzyten10 - 16-12-2019
I have been worried by our home performances all season. Our expected goals stats are poor and always catch up with you over the course of the season. I did miss the Birmingham game so that may cloud my judgement but we just haven’t made opposition goal keepers work hard enough and it’s no coincidence that we have not had penalties or decent direct free kick chances as we don’t carry the ball enough in dangerous areas or get enough bodies in the box. Our away performances have masked how poor we have been and unless we invest in forward options we will struggle.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Strawberry Avenger - 16-12-2019
(16-12-2019, 09:20 PM)Alf Wrote: Totally agree SA.
I've taken the whaz a few times with some about how they wanted MON gone, and essentially we've got him in French form, right down to benching Carvalho.
*nods.
I personally think MoN's sides had more bottle and fight than the current Coach.
He'd tell his players and probably the interviewer or even the fans what they didn't want to hear. ie. That Forest weren't quite good enough and we'll have a go. And when he asked for the players he wanted to get Forest promoted, he was let go. Or maybe he indicated he knew more about the Championship and English football than the owner or the installed hierarchy of football experts. MoN is his own man.
Or the plan was to bring him in on an interim basis (ergo the short contract) should another of Forest's 1st choice become available.
Think MoN changed things up tactically with each team (with the 'options' he had during a very limited January window) and took the fight to the opposition. Called working with what you've got. But before you can build on that. He's gone.
MoN? His interim style of football may have been 'earning the right muck and nettles' stuff. He may have benched a 13£ million player who doesn't track back and gives the ball away (say...not much as change then...)
The home form all season hasn't been sexy or dramatic. Dull and solid? -ish. Is that any better than the agricultural football with a limited set of attacking options? Sounds like more of the same to me.
Aitor. MoN. The Coach. Does it matter. Unfortunate this latest collapse is. Another defeat and what else are we expected to think? Preston had 4 defeats on the bounce and are now 3rd. Forest have won 1 in six. That doesn't augur that all is well in the camp. A defeat on Saturday and I'd assume that talks are ongoing with another contender.
I'd like, of course, a victory to take Forest '3rd.' Which it won't as Preston are back in the game.
SA.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Strawberry Avenger - 16-12-2019
(16-12-2019, 09:39 PM)ozzyten10 Wrote: I have been worried by our home performances all season. Our expected goals stats are poor and always catch up with you over the course of the season. I did miss the Birmingham game so that may cloud my judgement but we just haven’t made opposition goal keepers work hard enough and it’s no coincidence that we have not had penalties or decent direct free kick chances as we don’t carry the ball enough in dangerous areas or get enough bodies in the box. Our away performances have masked how poor we have been and unless we invest in forward options we will struggle.
Birmingham and QPR are blips.
Take away the away form and the the league table wouldn't flatter Forest with 8th.
SA.