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RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Jean_claude_killy - 19-12-2019
(19-12-2019, 10:03 AM)Alf Wrote:(18-12-2019, 09:23 PM)Paplane Wrote:(18-12-2019, 05:47 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Big day for Sabri on Saturday. Hope the players put a real shift in for him and he comes away with the 3 points.
Yep. If they dont they all want f***ing off.
How have we reached that stage after having such a good season?
1 bad game.
Let's see how this next month goes and focus on signing the players any manager would need to do well with us.
"How have we reached that stage after having such a good season?"
The simple fact is that we have not reached that stage; nowhere near it in my view.
Every single one of us was fully aware that we would hit a run of bad results sooner rather than later; that awareness has done little to temper a huge over reaction.
The Wednesday result cannot and should not detract from the fact that we have had a very good season so far; exceptionally good if you factor in the churn of players and the fragility of the squad in a few areas.
We know that EM is trigger happy and has gotten through a few managers to date, but when you look at the managers who have gone and why, I tend to feel far more relaxed about Lamouchi's future:
Warburton's belligerence talked himself out of a job; Karanka threw his toys out when a DOF was appointed and MON a was a huge mistake which needed correcting.
Some people are going to be deeply disappointed that the prospect of a top two finish has all but disappeared; all I can say to those people is "welcome to reality" because a top two was never, ever on the cards, not with this squad.
We have a massive opportunity to add some of the missing pieces next Month; that should be the focus, not changing managers.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 19-12-2019
Well said JCK.
A round of applause.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Alf - 19-12-2019
(19-12-2019, 11:02 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Well said JCK.
A round of applause.
Seconded. Brill post JCK.
Let's 'kin have it.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Strawberry Avenger - 19-12-2019
(19-12-2019, 10:55 AM)Jean_claude_killy Wrote:(19-12-2019, 10:03 AM)Alf Wrote:(18-12-2019, 09:23 PM)Paplane Wrote:(18-12-2019, 05:47 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Big day for Sabri on Saturday. Hope the players put a real shift in for him and he comes away with the 3 points.
Yep. If they dont they all want f***ing off.
How have we reached that stage after having such a good season?
1 bad game.
Let's see how this next month goes and focus on signing the players any manager would need to do well with us.
"How have we reached that stage after having such a good season?"
The simple fact is that we have not reached that stage; nowhere near it in my view.
Every single one of us was fully aware that we would hit a run of bad results sooner rather than later; that awareness has done little to temper a huge over reaction.
The Wednesday result cannot and should not detract from the fact that we have had a very good season so far; exceptionally good if you factor in the churn of players and the fragility of the squad in a few areas.
We know that EM is trigger happy and has gotten through a few managers to date, but when you look at the managers who have gone and why, I tend to feel far more relaxed about Lamouchi's future:
Warburton's belligerence talked himself out of a job; Karanka threw his toys out when a DOF was appointed and MON a was a huge (disagree) mistake which needed correcting.
Some people are going to be deeply disappointed that the prospect of a top two finish has all but disappeared; all I can say to those people is "welcome to reality" because a top two was never, ever on the cards, not with this squad.
We have a massive opportunity to add some of the missing pieces next Month; that should be the focus, not changing managers.
I agree with the sentiment of most of that (bar MoN. It seems upon reflection, his appointment was temporary. I doubt a MoN side would have bottled it like Forest did vs Wednesday. Forest seemed ill prepared in every department.)
A 'good season.' Forest have been in the top 4/5/6 for a while not, only recently dropping out of the top 6 after two unlucky results (last minute capitulations) and the out right disaster of Wednesday. So The Coach has played his cards reasonably well with injuries conspiring against him. We've been so, so lucky Grabban hasn't got injured. So maybe teh luck has balanced out up front. But the forward line has really fallen away of late.
Mostly? The results have been pretty tight at home and away. The away form has been spot on. Forest aren't possession based but are solid and direct. But lack the guile and finesse to break down...see the teams below.
Funnily enough. Most of those at home? There have only been a few real capitulations at Wigan, Hull, Millwall 1st half and Wednesday. Which suggest The Coach needs to find a solution to the home form. I'd argue that solution is Sow and Rib'. They've been a significant miss. Sow had been pivotal in the side getting the side into the top 6 and the confidence of that run has slowed sapped out of the side following his injury. Sow is the make weight. His power, strength, pace and aggressive energy have been a pivotal miss. And for the system The Coach is playing? Rib' has been an unbalancing miss where jack seems ill-equipped to play it.
4 out of all the games played isn't the end of the world. But I'm not Marinakis. And is that 'run' continues for another week over the Christmas period. eg. Another 2-3 losses or draws? I'd say we couldn't vouch for his safety.
But that's conjecture. Forest could well bounce back. I hope so.
Yes. 'bite of reality sandwich' time.
Sow, Rib' back. Forest are pretty much placed in the table about right without them.
I think getting promoted via the play offs? Much depends on January. A couple of strikers (one of whom who is a winger/come striker?), a left sided CH, A DCM(!) and possibly a more robust ACM?
What's that? 5 players. The recruitment team could do with knocking it out the park this time.
January beckons. The Forest squad seem to be tiring. Teams are beginning to target our lack of resources in certain areas.
SA.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Username - 21-12-2019
Tick tock
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Paplane - 21-12-2019
Hang in there Sabri. The players are still with him. We just got shithoused today.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Username - 21-12-2019
Are they?
What makes you say that?
We shithoused quite a few teams earlier in the season.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Paplane - 21-12-2019
(21-12-2019, 06:14 PM)Username Wrote: Are they?
What makes you say that?
We shithoused quite a few teams earlier in the season.
Big efforts going in at the end. Looked like they wanted it. Lolley had his best game in weeks.
Still a defeat but lots of positives for me. Wozza will be disappointed with the 2nd goal but every team can lose a goal at a set piece. Samba in goal looked solid again.
I'm telling you, we've turned a corner. Hope Marinakis can see it.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Username - 21-12-2019
Don’t forget the opposition, Lolley should have looked good against them, I think he’s turning into the next Paul Anderson.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Paplane - 21-12-2019
(21-12-2019, 07:23 PM)Username Wrote: Don’t forget the opposition, Lolley should have looked good against them, I think he’s turning into the next Paul Anderson.
Ive always had a concern that Lolley was just an average to decent player going through the purpleist patch of his career last season. To be honest, based on his peformances this season, im a bit concerned that im right.
Hope not though. Thought he was much improved today.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 22-12-2019
(21-12-2019, 06:07 PM)Paplane Wrote: Hang in there Sabri. The players are still with him. We just got shithoused today.
^ This.
Lets hold our nerve for once and ride this storm out and stick with Sabri.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - ThePromisedLand - 22-12-2019
(22-12-2019, 11:04 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote:(21-12-2019, 06:07 PM)Paplane Wrote: Hang in there Sabri. The players are still with him. We just got shithoused today.
^ This.
Lets hold our nerve for once and ride this storm out and stick with Sabri.
^ This ^
I’d just ask the 2 blokes sat immediately behind me yesterday who want him out & described him as a ‘one trick pony’ learn to have a little patience & keep their opinions to themselves.