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RE: The Infrastructure Projects - Tricky - 16-07-2024
(16-07-2024, 03:57 PM)Fumanchew Wrote: With benoy on board it shouldn’t take too long to draw up something, to at least get outline planning permission
The next two planning meetings are Aug 8 and sep 12th
The club also need to overcome the obstacles they are already facing. The Section 106 agreement, the boat clubs, the issues surrounding the apartment development before they can go down the planning permission to level the Bridgford stand surely?
RE: The Infrastructure Projects - Trailer Park Tom - 16-07-2024
I'm guessing the Bridgford is just an assurance and the Peter Taylor stand would be worked on first.
RE: The Infrastructure Projects - Fumanchew - 16-07-2024
Would it need levelling? I assumed it would be to make alterations?
RE: The Infrastructure Projects - Tricky - 16-07-2024
(16-07-2024, 05:42 PM)Fumanchew Wrote: Would it need levelling? I assumed it would be to make alterations?
I didnt mean levelling as in demolishing it!! I meant levelling the roof by getting rid of the slope.
RE: The Infrastructure Projects - Fumanchew - 16-07-2024
(16-07-2024, 08:03 PM)Tricky Wrote:(16-07-2024, 05:42 PM)Fumanchew Wrote: Would it need levelling? I assumed it would be to make alterations?
I didnt mean levelling as in demolishing it!! I meant levelling the roof by getting rid of the slope.
Oh f**k I get ya now
I think they could put two in separately I guess we’ll see
With having the freehold maybe the PT application gets resubmitted like some have said
RE: The Infrastructure Projects - ozzyten10 - 16-07-2024
They have big plans - the PT stand has planning but they want it bigger! Don’t discount the clough stand being done too in the longer term…
RE: The Infrastructure Projects - Jimmygordon - 17-07-2024
I understand the Boot Room a major pain the arse. They bought it off the social club and now are sitting on prime estate. Opportunist? Or sensible?
RE: The Infrastructure Projects - Long John - 31-07-2024
Serious question as I’m no expert.
Man Utd plan to build a new 100k stadium. An upgrade of 15-20k seats. Apparently building a new stadium will work out cheaper than upgrading the current infrastructure.
Knocking down stands whilst still playing at the current stadium with reduced capacity in an age of FFP is financially bad for the club.
Most don’t really want a move to Toton. But staying at the current ground with all its planning nightmares and capacity restraints for fans over a number of years, not just one, still doesn’t sit right from a business point of view. When land with housing and potential hotel developments elsewhere could make the club a lot of money in future.
Whichever way I look at it and with Man Utd’s move, staying put doesn’t make financial sense? I want to stay at the city ground. But with fans missing out for a number of years with redevelopments it may mean selling players to meet FFP targets and still try and remain competitive.
Am I missing something. If it doesn’t make financial sense for a club the size of Man Utd to stay put, how can it be for us?
RE: The Infrastructure Projects - Salvatore Matrecano - 31-07-2024
The huge difference is that Man Utd plan to build their new ground adjacent to the old one still within Old Trafford. Its a big industrial area with room for development.
Forest of course dont have the room and its just not possible, even a move within a few miles would seem to be impractical, pretty sure the club have looked at alternatives. So the option is Toton or some other site probably outside the City. Commercially a move would make sense but if you think that’s the only consideration in my opinion you miss the point. Personally I think that alternative strips the club of its identity and what we lose is far more than we gain.
RE: The Infrastructure Projects - Long John - 31-07-2024
Understand 100% about identity. I don’t want to move happy where we are. But I may be proved very wrong and I hope I am, but I still can’t see us staying put.
Nobody likes it me more than anyone, but football is a business these days. I think 15 of the current 20 premier league teams have either moved or looked into or are planning to move.
I hope I’m wrong but financially I just can’t see it.
RE: The Infrastructure Projects - ToryTom - 31-07-2024
(31-07-2024, 09:24 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: The huge difference is that Man Utd plan to build their new ground adjacent to the old one still within Old Trafford. Its a big industrial area with room for development.
Forest of course dont have the room and its just not possible, even a move within a few miles would seem to be impractical, pretty sure the club have looked at alternatives. So the option is Toton or some other site probably outside the City. Commercially a move would make sense but if you think that’s the only consideration in my opinion you miss the point. Personally I think that alternative strips the club of its identity and what we lose is far more than we gain.
Man City, Arsenal, West Ham, Brighton, Southampton, Leicester Derby , Sunderland all moved to bigger and better stadiums in different locations. I bet not many of their fans would regret those moves and wish to go back to their old stadiums. Why would Forest fans be any different.
RE: The Infrastructure Projects - Salvatore Matrecano - 31-07-2024
Man City moved out of Moss Side the roughest area of the City to a venue still only 2 miles from Manchester City centre.
Arsenal moved to a site a very short distance from Highbury
West Ham fans would move back to the Boleyn in a heartbeat, the offer of a free tax payer funded stadium was too good even though they hate the place.
Brighton were homeless and had no choice. their new stadium is nice but in a horrible location and is exactly what I would fear about Toton. Difference is we havent got to go.
Southampton stadium is in good location in the heart of the City. The Dell wasn’t even close to being big enough and they had to move.
Leicester likewise, Filbert street hemmed in on 3 sides had to move, new stadium less than a mile away.
Derby? Really? You want to move to a retail park? Besides again they moved from a cramped location in the shittiest part of a shitty city to a lcation that’s actually closer to the centre.
Do you see the difference above vs moving from an outdated but upgradeable venue in a superb location to one 8 miles away and no longer in the City and community it represents?