(22-11-2020, 09:42 AM)Widdow Wrote: Doesn’t take bollocks to reply on a forum and morning after still didn’t mind you picking up in my negatives, as that was all my frustrations coming out, and will make sure I post when I see positive results as well.

Glad you seen good all days too, great to watch but find always comparing and perhaps shouldnt. One thing I can recall is Frank Clark tenure starting his championship season in not the greatest of form, but the signing of Lars and Philips got us on track, the sand of time though seems to be running out this season.

As for likes of Coventry and Wycombe, aye respect them, plucky league one clubs trying to make a splash in the bigger pool, but are we not Forest, are we not owned my ambitious owners who keep sacking managers for not delivering.

Those owners need to take a hell a lot of responsibility and back CH, who as a manager I like to listen too and have respect for what he has done in this league, although didn’t want Forest to appointment him, which is something you can troll look back in my posts re the subject. I have been pleasantly surprised and actuall enjoyed watching the game for 70 minutes, yet frustrated not seeing the experienced manager not able to change the game or just the much bigger vast resources than plucky Barnsley who been coached by a championship novice.

Sure CH will learn and now has to pick up players for a really tough run of fixtures, but hey football is funny old game and wouldn’t be surprised on getting a result at Bournemouth but won’t hold my breath.

Posting during and after games on what happened is the opposite of being a seer, just Google it if not sure, but like your knowledge of fantasy characters

You seemed to mention FIFA so thought you would know about pro evo (or PES as it’s better known) have a go yourself rather than worrying about what I have or what I haven’t posted, broaden your  horizons and take a chill pill and reflect that some may see game a little different to you.

Finally, whilst looking back at old posts, you perhaps need to read what I said about Tyler Walker. Nice lad, academy player, dad a legend not only for Forest but also for England and me watching the best World Cup Italia 90.

What I said very clearly, that it was stupid decision to bring him back from a successful loan at Lincoln, to sit in our stands and rarely play.I argued that is was a shortsighted decision and if he stayed he could have continued to score goals and have a higher market value.

I was proved right (Google seer) and not only didn’t he play we let him leave for a paltry £500k. Ok he was in last year of contract but so was Ivan Toney (a player I said we should recruit in the summer) and after he played well in league one sold for £6.5m.

I didn’t moan we sold him I moaned we didn’t get market value. He has scored more goals than Grabban has in last 20 games or so. Don’t sweat the games just throwing it out there.

So to me it’s down to how the club is being run and poor recruitment and novice transfer decisions. See my other threads on that subject.

(22-11-2020, 09:56 AM)wassy04 Wrote:

(22-11-2020, 09:42 AM)Widdow Wrote: Doesn’t take bollocks to reply on a forum and morning after still didn’t mind you picking up in my negatives, as that was all my frustrations coming out, and will make sure I post when I see positive results as well.

Glad you seen good all days too, great to watch but find always comparing and perhaps shouldnt. One thing I can recall is Frank Clark tenure starting his championship season in not the greatest of form, but the signing of Lars and Philips got us on track, the sand of time though seems to be running out this season.

As for likes of Coventry and Wycombe, aye respect them, plucky league one clubs trying to make a splash in the bigger pool, but are we not Forest, are we not owned my ambitious owners who keep sacking managers for not delivering.

Those owners need to take a hell a lot of responsibility and back CH, who as a manager I like to listen too and have respect for what he has done in this league, although didn’t want Forest to appointment him, which is something you can troll look back in my posts re the subject. I have been pleasantly surprised and actuall enjoyed watching the game for 70 minutes, yet frustrated not seeing the experienced manager not able to change the game or just the much bigger vast resources than plucky Barnsley who been coached by a championship novice.

Sure CH will learn and now has to pick up players for a really tough run of fixtures, but hey football is funny old game and wouldn’t be surprised on getting a result at Bournemouth but won’t hold my breath.

Posting during and after games on what happened is the opposite of being a seer, just Google it if not sure, but like your knowledge of fantasy characters

You seemed to mention FIFA so thought you would know about pro evo (or PES as it’s better known) have a go yourself rather than worrying about what I have or what I haven’t posted, broaden your  horizons and take a chill pill and reflect that some may see game a little different to you.

Finally, whilst looking back at old posts, you perhaps need to read what I said about Tyler Walker. Nice lad, academy player, dad a legend not only for Forest but also for England and me watching the best World Cup Italia 90.

What I said very clearly, that it was stupid decision to bring him back from a successful loan at Lincoln, to sit in our stands and rarely play.I argued that is was a shortsighted decision and if he stayed he could have continued to score goals and have a higher market value.

I was proved right (Google seer) and not only didn’t he play we let him leave for a paltry £500k. Ok he was in last year of contract but so was Ivan Toney (a player I said we should recruit in the summer) and after he played well in league one sold for £6.5m.

I didn’t moan we sold him I moaned we didn’t get market value. He has scored more goals than Grabban has in last 20 games or so. Don’t sweat the games just throwing it out there.

So to me it’s down to how the club is being run and poor recruitment and novice transfer decisions. See my other threads on that subject.

Finished my popcorn, I just can't stand your repeated insistence that Mowatt is the greatest player alive and would completely transform our team right now. He plays for Barnsley ffs and has done for years. If he was as good as you say they'd have lost him to one of the any other top sides in the league who could easily afford him. There's often a mentality it seems that other club's players are amazing and ours aren't, Freeman has been the classic example. I've no idea whether you were one of the many desperate to sign him and who wrote off our January window purely on the basis we didnt sign him. 

The point wasn't that you're necessarily not offering balanced arguments but that you only post at times of negativity therefore naturally leaning towards negativity. I think zicorice was frustrated that you weren't offering these 'balanced' arguments at a time when it would enhance the debate. Rather than just speaking after the fact of a defeat.

Back on debate, I think we need to pretend the first four games didn't happen and focus on CH's time at the club only. Best performance so far I thought, if we'd taken one of the chances we'd probably have won. I've interesting to see how he sets us up v Bournemouth as we'll need to be more defensive

(22-11-2020, 10:18 AM)Widdow Wrote:

(22-11-2020, 09:56 AM)wassy04 Wrote:

(22-11-2020, 09:42 AM)Widdow Wrote: Doesn’t take bollocks to reply on a forum and morning after still didn’t mind you picking up in my negatives, as that was all my frustrations coming out, and will make sure I post when I see positive results as well.

Glad you seen good all days too, great to watch but find always comparing and perhaps shouldnt. One thing I can recall is Frank Clark tenure starting his championship season in not the greatest of form, but the signing of Lars and Philips got us on track, the sand of time though seems to be running out this season.

As for likes of Coventry and Wycombe, aye respect them, plucky league one clubs trying to make a splash in the bigger pool, but are we not Forest, are we not owned my ambitious owners who keep sacking managers for not delivering.

Those owners need to take a hell a lot of responsibility and back CH, who as a manager I like to listen too and have respect for what he has done in this league, although didn’t want Forest to appointment him, which is something you can troll look back in my posts re the subject. I have been pleasantly surprised and actuall enjoyed watching the game for 70 minutes, yet frustrated not seeing the experienced manager not able to change the game or just the much bigger vast resources than plucky Barnsley who been coached by a championship novice.

Sure CH will learn and now has to pick up players for a really tough run of fixtures, but hey football is funny old game and wouldn’t be surprised on getting a result at Bournemouth but won’t hold my breath.

Posting during and after games on what happened is the opposite of being a seer, just Google it if not sure, but like your knowledge of fantasy characters

You seemed to mention FIFA so thought you would know about pro evo (or PES as it’s better known) have a go yourself rather than worrying about what I have or what I haven’t posted, broaden your  horizons and take a chill pill and reflect that some may see game a little different to you.

Finally, whilst looking back at old posts, you perhaps need to read what I said about Tyler Walker. Nice lad, academy player, dad a legend not only for Forest but also for England and me watching the best World Cup Italia 90.

What I said very clearly, that it was stupid decision to bring him back from a successful loan at Lincoln, to sit in our stands and rarely play.I argued that is was a shortsighted decision and if he stayed he could have continued to score goals and have a higher market value.

I was proved right (Google seer) and not only didn’t he play we let him leave for a paltry £500k. Ok he was in last year of contract but so was Ivan Toney (a player I said we should recruit in the summer) and after he played well in league one sold for £6.5m.

I didn’t moan we sold him I moaned we didn’t get market value. He has scored more goals than Grabban has in last 20 games or so. Don’t sweat the games just throwing it out there.

So to me it’s down to how the club is being run and poor recruitment and novice transfer decisions. See my other threads on that subject.

Finished my popcorn, I just can't stand your repeated insistence that Mowatt is the greatest player alive and would completely transform our team right now. He plays for Barnsley ffs and has done for years. If he was as good as you say they'd have lost him to one of the any other top sides in the league who could easily afford him. There's often a mentality it seems that other club's players are amazing and ours aren't, Freeman has been the classic example. I've no idea whether you were one of the many desperate to sign him and who wrote off our January window purely on the basis we didnt sign him. 

The point wasn't that you're necessarily not offering balanced arguments but that you only post at times of negativity therefore naturally leaning towards negativity. I think zicorice was frustrated that you weren't offering these 'balanced' arguments at a time when it would enhance the debate. Rather than just speaking after the fact of a defeat.

Back on debate, I think we need to pretend the first four games didn't happen and focus on CH's time at the club only. Best performance so far I thought, if we'd taken one of the chances we'd probably have won. I've interesting to see how he sets us up v Bournemouth as we'll need to be more defensive

Not surprised you have jumped in, normally do, and firstly glad you are trying to get this post back on track. 

Secondly, I have done balanced posts in the past, yesterday was frustration coming out over a number of posts after a loss where our performance deserved to win, but don’t give Barnsley a disservice, our Man of the match was the crossbar without it would’ve been 5 goals for them, let’s not forget that, we got lucky until luck ran out. You just like to pick the negative ones like yesterday.

Mentioned Mowatt once, and if you cannot see he is a good player, then no problem, I do like him and think he is far better than Colback, far younger and will get that big move (Google seer) just not happened yet. Not sure why started on that for you to drop your popcorn to post. Strange.

As for Freeman, please troll (sorry hate that term) look back to see what I posted about him and pull up anything you can find please, you will see I didn’t want to sign him, a player who had failed in premier league and imo flatters to deceive who I think fans will be disappointed when playing week in week out. At the time thought they were trying to buy him outright as well for a big sum which I also argued would be a bad investment, as it was got him on loan, so whilst still not good on ffp with high wages but not on a long term contract like we have on the likes of 30 somethings like Colback, Arter,  fred) with no future value, but hey cos they were on a free transfers everyone thinks they are good for ffp (keep those blinkers on), and mentioning mowatt again, I believe would’ve been a better long term investment. 

And I have posted long enough to offer both sides of arguments and never, well rarely get down to picking on other posters or name calling. I know you have jumped on me a number of times and I have responded. 

As for forgetting the first 4 games didn’t happen, wow. The blinkers turned into a blindfold, can we contact championship and make that claim or would that be another waste of time and failed court case for the club like Grosicki. 

Can CH turn things round, yes I believe he will and does need to be given time and a proper go at the January transfer window to start building a competitive team/squad, but will be be backed and will it be enough to push us on to play offs (which read somewhere 10 points off but I’ve been looking down rather than up)?

Go get some more pop corn or go for a nice Sunday walk

(22-11-2020, 09:42 AM)Widdow Wrote: Doesn’t take bollocks to reply on a forum and morning after still didn’t mind you picking up in my negatives, as that was all my frustrations coming out, and will make sure I post when I see positive results as well.

Glad you seen good all days too, great to watch but find always comparing and perhaps shouldnt. One thing I can recall is Frank Clark tenure starting his championship season in not the greatest of form, but the signing of Lars and Philips got us on track, the sand of time though seems to be running out this season.

As for likes of Coventry and Wycombe, aye respect them, plucky league one clubs trying to make a splash in the bigger pool, but are we not Forest, are we not owned my ambitious owners who keep sacking managers for not delivering, shouldn’t we have won those?

Those owners need to take a hell a lot of responsibility and back CH, who as a manager I like to listen too and have respect for what he has done in this league, although didn’t want Forest to appointment him, which is something you can look back in my posts re the subject. I have been pleasantly surprised and actuall enjoyed watching the game for 70 minutes, yet frustrated not seeing the experienced manager not able to change the game or just the much bigger vast resources than plucky Barnsley who been coached by a championship novice.

Sure CH will learn and now has to pick up players for a really tough run of fixtures, but hey football is funny old game and wouldn’t be surprised on getting a result at Bournemouth but won’t hold my breath.

Posting during and after games on what happened is the opposite of being a seer, just Google it if not sure, but like your knowledge of fantasy characters

You seemed to mention FIFA so thought you would know about pro evo (or PES as it’s better known) have a go yourself rather than worrying about what I have or what I haven’t posted, broaden your  horizons and take a chill pill and reflect that some may see game a little different to you.

Finally, whilst looking back at old posts, you perhaps need to read what I said about Tyler Walker. Nice lad, academy player, dad a legend not only for Forest but also for England and me watching the best World Cup Italia 90.

What I said very clearly, that it was stupid decision to bring him back from a successful loan at Lincoln, to sit in our stands and rarely play.I argued that is was a shortsighted decision and if he stayed he could have continued to score goals and have a higher market value.

I was proved right (Google seer) and not only didn’t he play we let him leave for a paltry £500k. Ok he was in last year of contract but so was Ivan Toney (a player I said we should recruit in the summer) and after he played well in league one sold for £6.5m.

I didn’t moan we sold him I moaned we didn’t get market value. He has scored more goals than Grabban has in last 20 games or so. Don’t sweat the games just throwing it out there.

So to me it’s down to how the club is being run and poor recruitment and novice transfer decisions. See my other threads on that subject if fancy some Sunday trolling, as for what I’ll be doing is reflecting on my negativity and having fun with the family. .

(22-11-2020, 12:55 PM)Alf Wrote: Agree with Figs Widdow. I think Hughtons coming in for more criticism than he deserves, but his continued selection of Figs tells me he's either wide of the mark, or Soh is bollocks.

(22-11-2020, 12:55 PM)Alf Wrote: Agree with Figs Widdow. I think Hughtons coming in for more criticism than he deserves, but his continued selection of Figs tells me he's either wide of the mark, or Soh is bollocks.