(14-02-2021, 12:41 PM)Marinakis Red Wrote:

(14-02-2021, 12:22 PM)Reds73 Wrote: We are in extremely safe hands with CH.

We won’t ever get a manager who will give us a better chance of putting the foundations in place to give us a chance of promotion.

Nothing is guaranteed, but I’m pretty confident come next season we will have a team who is operating in the top half of the table and in contention.

Agree it will not be pretty or exciting, will not be edge of the seat football but he will get us challenging.

(13-02-2021, 08:41 PM)stirred Wrote:

(13-02-2021, 06:53 PM)wassy04 Wrote:

(13-02-2021, 04:48 PM)stirred Wrote: When I started supporting Forest they had some principles, on how to play and how to behave. I liked both of them. Neutrals liked us. I was proud to support us.

Watching us now is embarrassing, and it saddens me that the club is gaining a reputation for being dour and negative. For me it is far worse to watch us play like we do now than to approach matches trying to win but (also) with limited success.

I haven’t posted for a while because I don’t want to be accused of being negative. I understand the arguments people make, saying we were in free-fall and of building a foundation, but I don’t buy it and for me there is simply no excuse for playing the way we are playing.

Our squad is comfortably better than the clubs around us, the likes of Derby, Rotherham, Coventry, Wycombe, Wednesday, QPR, Birmingham. They would love to swap their squads for ours.

Yet there is a narrative that we need to play this way to avoid relegation. I do not believe it. We were never going down.

To compound the playing style, in a season where we are neither going up nor down, it should be about building for next season. Yet our two teenage prospects watch from the bench while a 37 year-old loanee now leads our attack. It’s a good job there are no crowds allowed.

It makes me sad and it makes me angry to see us approach the game like we do, to the point where I feel the need to take a break from watching them too. I can only hope that the club employs a manager who understands the modern game and can have us showing ambition and playing entertaining football sooner rather than later.

Sorry what are you basing it on that one squad is way better than the sides around us? 

All that evidence they've given so far this season. This is the attitude I just don't get. Why is the first reaction to assume the team is underachieving when not doing very well. I've seen no evidence that we are better than any of those sides apart from the last few games, since we improved the team.

We overachieved last year and now we're maybe slightly below where we should be on paper. We've got no divine right to challenge higher up the league. I can understand not likely the negative style of football, sure.

Given after 8 points from 12 we're only 5 above drop zone and with games in hand still to say we were never going down is ridiculous. We are still well in the hunt for relegation.

I think your problem is you need to massively redefine your expectations for the team and squad, just because we were big 40 years ago, means nothing now. To be honest, maybe you should stop watching if it's upsetting you so much.

Sorry what are you basing it on that one squad is way better than the sides around us? 
Years of watching football. It's just my judgement, we disagree, it's fine.

I think your problem is you need to massively redefine your expectations for the team and squad, just because we were big 40 years ago, means nothing now.
I don't think that's relevant to me, I wasn't around 40 years ago. The latter part of the Clough reign was my beginning in football. I was spoilt even then in the late 80's, but 20 years out of the top division and I still bought my season ticket. I have some hope each year, but I've learnt better than to expect!

Results wise my expectation on an ongoing basis is that Hughton won't get the best out of his squads because he is too conservative and inflexible. But it goes beyond just a difference in tactics to something more fundamental, and that is how to approach the game. We are now so negative it crosses the line for me. Does / should the club not have a philosophy or identity? This can't be it.

I can assure you I'm no fickle fan - if I'm taking a break, thousands of others will be doing the same.

(14-02-2021, 12:22 PM)Reds73 Wrote: We are in extremely safe hands with CH.

We won’t ever get a manager who will give us a better chance of putting the foundations in place to give us a chance of promotion.

Nothing is guaranteed, but I’m pretty confident come next season we will have a team who is operating in the top half of the table and in contention.

(14-02-2021, 12:57 PM)ThePromisedLand Wrote: Win 1-0 at home

Draw 0-0 away

Result - promotion

Result - fans happy

(14-02-2021, 01:14 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: I am sure that if CH brings in 3 or 4 more new players of his choice and the squad gets a full pre-season then we will see a different Forest next season both in terms of quality of play and in league position.

What CH is trying to achieve is a work in progress.

(21-02-2021, 08:14 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: What is not to like about Chrissie Hughton. He's doing a cracking job. No quick fix but nice steady progress. I for one am already looking forward to us challenging at the right end of the table next season.

(21-02-2021, 09:59 AM)Marinakis Red Wrote:

(21-02-2021, 08:14 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: What is not to like about Chrissie Hughton. He's doing a cracking job. No quick fix but nice steady progress. I for one am already looking forward to us challenging at the right end of the table next season.

As one that has been sceptical of CH to say the least, this week I have been impressed with our performance levels and the intent shown. If this is what he is building towards then we could have a very good season next year. Really hope we can get James Garner back, he has made a big difference in the centre of the pitch, and Cafu in the DM role has enabled us to control the ball better and dictate the play more.