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RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - ThePromisedLand - 18-03-2021
(18-03-2021, 09:43 AM)Paplane Wrote:(18-03-2021, 09:14 AM)ThePromisedLand Wrote: My concern about Hughton last night was less about the quality of play ( or lack of it ) and more about the absolute lack of purpose. The players showed no urgency whatsoever, happy to coast through the game & just pick up their pay cheques at the end of the month.
Does Hughton possess a ‘hair dryer’ treatment? The players bloody well need it right now.
He said in his interview he 'got into them' at half time. 2nd half they came out and improved. Whats the issue with Hughton?
With no Knockheart, no Lolley, no Worrall, no Samba, and no Krov a defeat was inevitable against an excellent team.
I’m not having it that defeat was ‘inevitable’. The performance was insipid - the lack of effort frightening.
Yes Norwich are the best in the division - but we just stood back & allowed them to look even better.
We certainly miss Worrall & both wingers.
But it was Hughton’s choice to bench Krovinovic.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Paplane - 18-03-2021
(18-03-2021, 09:55 AM)ThePromisedLand Wrote:(18-03-2021, 09:43 AM)Paplane Wrote:(18-03-2021, 09:14 AM)ThePromisedLand Wrote: My concern about Hughton last night was less about the quality of play ( or lack of it ) and more about the absolute lack of purpose. The players showed no urgency whatsoever, happy to coast through the game & just pick up their pay cheques at the end of the month.
Does Hughton possess a ‘hair dryer’ treatment? The players bloody well need it right now.
He said in his interview he 'got into them' at half time. 2nd half they came out and improved. Whats the issue with Hughton?
With no Knockheart, no Lolley, no Worrall, no Samba, and no Krov a defeat was inevitable against an excellent team.
I’m not having it that defeat was ‘inevitable’. The performance was insipid - the lack of effort frightening.
Yes Norwich are the best in the division - but we just stood back & allowed them to look even better.
We certainly miss Worrall & both wingers.
But it was Hughton’s choice to bench Krovinovic.
We stood off far too much and it hurt us dearly. But there was effort int he 2nd. Yates was Garner were absolutely knackered at the end. You camt say there wasnt effort. Yes, lack of quality, but bot effort.
As for Krov's absence, imo he's been excellent since he came in but it has been noticable that his influence has waned of late. I expect he's just knackerd and needed to sit it out. The trouble is we have no natural replacement for what he brings and we suffered massivly as a result.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Todditench - 18-03-2021
Norwich had dropped down a couple of gears thats why our 2nd half performance seemed better... the game was already over in their eyes. Our overall game plan was shocking, CH needs to let the opposition worry about us not vice versa!
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Marinakis Red - 18-03-2021
(18-03-2021, 10:35 AM)Todditench Wrote: Norwich had dropped down a couple of gears thats why our 2nd half performance seemed better... the game was already over in their eyes. Our overall game plan was shocking, CH needs to let the opposition worry about us not vice versa!
Absolutely Norwich didn't play at the same tempo and looked like they were conserving energy for the next one.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - ozzyten10 - 18-03-2021
Next 2 games will see us in trouble
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 18-03-2021
What brassed me off last night was that with CH opting not to play Krovinovic it was the ideal opportunity to put Freeman in his favoured position and bring Mighten in but instead he opted to go with Cafu, Garner and Yates and stick Freeman out wide again. That was very disappointing.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Madforit - 18-03-2021
(18-03-2021, 10:56 AM)ozzyten10 Wrote: Next 2 games will see us in trouble
Agreed, hopefully it will make up the big mans mind about Hughton
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - ThePromisedLand - 18-03-2021
(18-03-2021, 11:46 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: What brassed me off last night was that with CH opting not to play Krovinovic it was the ideal opportunity to put Freeman in his favoured position and bring Mighten in but instead he opted to go with Cafu, Garner and Yates and stick Freeman out wide again. That was very disappointing.
+1
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - wassy04 - 18-03-2021
(18-03-2021, 11:59 AM)ThePromisedLand Wrote:(18-03-2021, 11:46 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: What brassed me off last night was that with CH opting not to play Krovinovic it was the ideal opportunity to put Freeman in his favoured position and bring Mighten in but instead he opted to go with Cafu, Garner and Yates and stick Freeman out wide again. That was very disappointing.
+1
The use of Freeman at all is definitely the most baffling decision that CH keeps making. Playing out of position, not looking good and also simultaneously blocking Mighten from game time just doesn't make sense.
I get the idea of trying to give him game time to see whether he's worth pursuing next season but it does seem that he's overdoing it on that front.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Widdow - 18-03-2021
As you know Didn't want hughton as manager, because of the type of football he dishes up, and so it is being proved, another bad appointment by the Greeks and not surprised by some of the apathy of fans towards him, and a number of restless fans grow more each game.
Norwich stuck with Farke cos they could see what he was about, a young coach getting to know the championship / English football and he was playing football in the right way and in an entertaining manner.
Hughton, shouldn't need time to get to know championship, but time and time again, he is falling short to the newcomers to the championship and if his football is an indication of what we can expect, then we should all be worried.
Look at the chap who took on Barnsley the same time as Hughton came in and look at the gulf that has developed between us and them, not just Norwich.
Same time we haven't seen any improvements of a style of play, apart from an improvement defending. Sticking with older players, and strange decisions like completely ignoring Riberio again and making Grabban captain. Freeman over others? His lack of subs is also baffling.
Talks a good game, but he is not delivering.
Still lacking in goals, creativity, endeavour and pace. No heart, as soon as we go a goal down, we are done for and also not showing anything to look forward to, or green shots to recovery. Not sure i would want him looking at Transfers, it would be another year for Glenn Murray no doubt.
Norwich have clearly shown, you can win more games than you lose in this league, with young exciting players, playing good passing, high pressing football, same as Brentford who we play next.
Hughton old skool tactics simply not working, so why stick with him??
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 18-03-2021
You make a good case there Widdow.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - TheGreenMan - 18-03-2021
(18-03-2021, 12:54 PM)Widdow Wrote: As you know Didn't want hughton as manager, because of the type of football he dishes up, and so it is being proved, another bad appointment by the Greeks and not surprised by some of the apathy of fans towards him, and a number of restless fans grow more each game.
Norwich stuck with Farke cos they could see what he was about, a young coach getting to know the championship / English football and he was playing football in the right way and in an entertaining manner.
Hughton, shouldn't need time to get to know championship, but time and time again, he is falling short to the newcomers to the championship and if his football is an indication of what we can expect, then we should all be worried.
Look at the chap who took on Barnsley the same time as Hughton came in and look at the gulf that has developed between us and them, not just Norwich.
Same time we haven't seen any improvements of a style of play, apart from an improvement defending. Sticking with older players, and strange decisions like completely ignoring Riberio again and making Grabban captain. Freeman over others? His lack of subs is also baffling.
Talks a good game, but he is not delivering.
Still lacking in goals, creativity, endeavour and pace. No heart, as soon as we go a goal down, we are done for and also not showing anything to look forward to, or green shots to recovery. Not sure i would want him looking at Transfers, it would be another year for Glenn Murray no doubt.
Norwich have clearly shown, you can win more games than you lose in this league, with young exciting players, playing good passing, high pressing football, same as Brentford who we play next.
Hughton old skool tactics simply not working, so why stick with him??
That was going to be my other point regarding Barnsley’s managerial change....Would anyone say Barnsley have a better squad than us?? I’m not for one moment saying our squad is fantastic, but he’s got them challenging for a play off place playing some good attacking football along the way.