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RE: Nottingham Forest - Cardiff City - wassy04 - 20-09-2020
(20-09-2020, 11:06 AM)Mad Squad Wrote:(20-09-2020, 09:52 AM)Fumanchew Wrote:(20-09-2020, 09:03 AM)ozzyten10 Wrote: "But at Sunderland and Forest, I was absolutely not in charge because other people wanted to run the clubs." MON
He wasn’t employed to run the club???
That is what I was thinking. MON was employed to be the manager/coach of Marinakis club not to run it. It's not 1979 anymore.
Agreed, and withdrawing a player to avoid injury is standard practise when trying to sell them. That said perhaps his (carv) value would increase if he was playing more...
RE: Nottingham Forest - Cardiff City - ozzyten10 - 20-09-2020
I get that but they employed him, surely remit should have been agreed at the outset. I merely perceive that all is not as rosy in the running of the club that some would have us believe...
The backing of Sabri - while commendable is also not consistent with previous decisions either- Karanka sacked after being top half and having encouraging performances / style... O’Neil sacked after finishing relatively strongly in the league. The form of last 10 games is the poorest under this regime yet seemingly backed to the hilt. I hope that this is just hangover and transitioning new players into the squad but no goals in 3 games and very poor defending doesn’t bode well. Perhaps it is just the change curve whereas you get a dip before sustainable gains in performance. We may go on to become a very strong side that gets stronger as the season progresses and perform well at the business end of the season. I really hope that is the case but sadly I can’t see it and have seen a steep decline with no signs of improvement. The second 45 could be argued as a sign of improvement but I’m not buying that- Cardiff allowed us that.
RE: Nottingham Forest - Cardiff City - wassy04 - 20-09-2020
(20-09-2020, 11:21 AM)ozzyten10 Wrote: I get that but they employed him, surely remit should have been agreed at the outset. I merely perceive that all is not as rosy in the running of the club that some would have us believe...
The backing of Sabri - while commendable is also not consistent with previous decisions either- Karanka sacked after being top half and having encouraging performances / style... O’Neil sacked after finishing relatively strongly in the league. The form of last 10 games is the poorest under this regime yet seemingly backed to the hilt. I hope that this is just hangover and transitioning new players into the squad but no goals in 3 games and very poor defending doesn’t bode well. Perhaps it is just the change curve whereas you get a dip before sustainable gains in performance. We may go on to become a very strong side that gets stronger as the season progresses and perform well at the business end of the season. I really hope that is the case but sadly I can’t see it and have seen a steep decline with no signs of improvement. The second 45 could be argued as a sign of improvement but I’m not buying that- Cardiff allowed us that.
Surely we don't want to consistently make bad decisions?! An improvement in the transfer strategy and long term management strategy is only a positive. Weird comment.
One decision shouldn't inform the next, the O'Neil appointment was a mistake and he was clearly unable/unwilling to work within a model that he surely was aware of at least in principle when joining.
RE: Nottingham Forest - Cardiff City - ozzyten10 - 20-09-2020
All I am saying is that managers have been sacked for less. Looking at the recruitment in isolation you can make a case for each and every signing. We have a strong squad on paper. I just hope it is teething issues and Sabri sorts it out and we get some results soon. I just don’t see any signs from the Last 10 matches I’ve seen and it worries me.
I will leave it now- had too much time on my hands this weekend so probably over thinking it.
RE: Nottingham Forest - Cardiff City - tugger2018 - 20-09-2020
Next match
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RE: Nottingham Forest - Cardiff City - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 20-09-2020
(20-09-2020, 11:21 AM)ozzyten10 Wrote: I get that but they employed him, surely remit should have been agreed at the outset. I merely perceive that all is not as rosy in the running of the club that some would have us believe...
The backing of Sabri - while commendable is also not consistent with previous decisions either- Karanka sacked after being top half and having encouraging performances / style... O’Neil sacked after finishing relatively strongly in the league. The form of last 10 games is the poorest under this regime yet seemingly backed to the hilt. I hope that this is just hangover and transitioning new players into the squad but no goals in 3 games and very poor defending doesn’t bode well. Perhaps it is just the change curve whereas you get a dip before sustainable gains in performance. We may go on to become a very strong side that gets stronger as the season progresses and perform well at the business end of the season. I really hope that is the case but sadly I can’t see it and have seen a steep decline with no signs of improvement. The second 45 could be argued as a sign of improvement but I’m not buying that- Cardiff allowed us that.
Karanka wasn't sacked Ozzy. He decided to walk just like he always does.
O'Neil was sacked because he wanted to run the club from top to bottom. Not happening in this day and age.
RE: Nottingham Forest - Cardiff City - tugger2018 - 20-09-2020
O’Neil could not manage Roy Keane
RE: Nottingham Forest - Cardiff City - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 20-09-2020
So why didn't he sack Keane and get a new assistant?
RE: Nottingham Forest - Cardiff City - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 20-09-2020
O'Neil can't handle a modern football set up.
RE: Nottingham Forest - Cardiff City - ozzyten10 - 20-09-2020
(20-09-2020, 12:56 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote:(20-09-2020, 11:21 AM)ozzyten10 Wrote: I get that but they employed him, surely remit should have been agreed at the outset. I merely perceive that all is not as rosy in the running of the club that some would have us believe...
The backing of Sabri - while commendable is also not consistent with previous decisions either- Karanka sacked after being top half and having encouraging performances / style... O’Neil sacked after finishing relatively strongly in the league. The form of last 10 games is the poorest under this regime yet seemingly backed to the hilt. I hope that this is just hangover and transitioning new players into the squad but no goals in 3 games and very poor defending doesn’t bode well. Perhaps it is just the change curve whereas you get a dip before sustainable gains in performance. We may go on to become a very strong side that gets stronger as the season progresses and perform well at the business end of the season. I really hope that is the case but sadly I can’t see it and have seen a steep decline with no signs of improvement. The second 45 could be argued as a sign of improvement but I’m not buying that- Cardiff allowed us that.
Karanka wasn't sacked Ozzy. He decided to walk just like he always does.
O'Neil was sacked because he wanted to run the club from top to bottom. Not happening in this day and age.
-as I’ve said Sniffer, I’ve had too much time this weekend to wallow in yet another disappointing result. The news of McKenna being sought today shows that we are at least identifying the areas we need to strengthen and nobody can deny the investment this close season. Where is the £ coming from though?
RE: Nottingham Forest - Cardiff City - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 20-09-2020
There will be some sales mate and rightly bloody so. Some are just not doing it.
RE: Nottingham Forest - Cardiff City - ThePromisedLand - 20-09-2020
(20-09-2020, 01:02 PM)ozzyten10 Wrote:(20-09-2020, 12:56 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote:(20-09-2020, 11:21 AM)ozzyten10 Wrote: I get that but they employed him, surely remit should have been agreed at the outset. I merely perceive that all is not as rosy in the running of the club that some would have us believe...
The backing of Sabri - while commendable is also not consistent with previous decisions either- Karanka sacked after being top half and having encouraging performances / style... O’Neil sacked after finishing relatively strongly in the league. The form of last 10 games is the poorest under this regime yet seemingly backed to the hilt. I hope that this is just hangover and transitioning new players into the squad but no goals in 3 games and very poor defending doesn’t bode well. Perhaps it is just the change curve whereas you get a dip before sustainable gains in performance. We may go on to become a very strong side that gets stronger as the season progresses and perform well at the business end of the season. I really hope that is the case but sadly I can’t see it and have seen a steep decline with no signs of improvement. The second 45 could be argued as a sign of improvement but I’m not buying that- Cardiff allowed us that.
Karanka wasn't sacked Ozzy. He decided to walk just like he always does.
O'Neil was sacked because he wanted to run the club from top to bottom. Not happening in this day and age.
-as I’ve said Sniffer, I’ve had too much time this weekend to wallow in yet another disappointing result. The news of McKenna being sought today shows that we are at least identifying the areas we need to strengthen and nobody can deny the investment this close season. Where is the £ coming from though?
Well we’re clearly not flush with cash Oz - but we are substantially in credit thus far this window.
And - with several on their way out of the door - I don’t believe funds to be an issue ( we’ll know in a couple of weeks I guess ).