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RE: Nottingham Forest - Stoke City - Paplane - 22-07-2020
(22-07-2020, 10:24 PM)Colnago Wrote:(22-07-2020, 10:21 PM)Paplane Wrote: Any of the top 5 will have murdered us in the play offs. Weve been hanging by a thread for weeks. We have 11 good players and one way of playing.You have a point about Jan but as you ve said yourself, we only have one way of playing and that’s cost us over the season
If the players get tired or injured then rests dip. Winter transfer window is the absolute reason weve faded. Who was responsible for that needs sacking, not the manager.
thats down to the manager
The manager cant play attacking football when we have 1 striker in the club. Thats an absolute shambles of a situation. Its not his fault unless the decisons not to buy was his, which i doubt.
RE: Nottingham Forest - Stoke City - ThePromisedLand - 22-07-2020
(22-07-2020, 10:24 PM)Colnago Wrote:We may only have one way of playing - but how many points have we thrown away as a result of underestimating the opposition? The big man will be asking some searching questions.(22-07-2020, 10:21 PM)Paplane Wrote: Any of the top 5 will have murdered us in the play offs. Weve been hanging by a thread for weeks. We have 11 good players and one way of playing.You have a point about Jan but as you ve said yourself, we only have one way of playing and that’s cost us over the season
If the players get tired or injured then rests dip. Winter transfer window is the absolute reason weve faded. Who was responsible for that needs sacking, not the manager.
thats down to the manager
RE: Nottingham Forest - Stoke City - Paplane - 22-07-2020
(22-07-2020, 10:24 PM)wassy04 Wrote:(22-07-2020, 10:21 PM)Paplane Wrote: Any of the top 5 will have murdered us in the play offs. Weve been hanging by a thread for weeks. We have 11 good players and one way of playing.
If the players get tired or injured then rests dip. Winter transfer window is the absolute reason weve faded. Who was responsible for that needs sacking, not the manager.
I don't know Brentford have also completely collapsed, I can't really see them recovering.
Losing a couple of games after winning eight on the bounce is perhaps a bit more acceptable.
RE: Nottingham Forest - Stoke City - stirred - 22-07-2020
(22-07-2020, 10:21 PM)Paplane Wrote: Any of the top 5 will have murdered us in the play offs. Weve been hanging by a thread for weeks. We have 11 good players and one way of playing.
If the players get tired or injured then rests dip. Winter transfer window is the absolute reason weve faded. Who was responsible for that needs sacking, not the manager.
Totally agree we were in a great place and that was the time to strengthen, but we just don't seem to have financial room due to FFP.
4 of the top 6 are receiving parachute payments of 30-odd or 40-odd million.
Our total revenue is only 25 million.
Leeds' is 49million.
Only Brentford outperformed us considering that.
We need to offload the players that aren't contributing but costing big wages, i.e. 1 million a year for Pantilimon, and all the others, Clough, Hef, Benalouane etc and wheel & deal and find some gems in the summer.
RE: Nottingham Forest - Stoke City - Salvatore Matrecano - 22-07-2020
Brentford collapsing and they get to play Swansea.
Swansea are going to get promoted arent they?
RE: Nottingham Forest - Stoke City - wassy04 - 22-07-2020
(22-07-2020, 10:27 PM)Paplane Wrote:(22-07-2020, 10:24 PM)wassy04 Wrote:(22-07-2020, 10:21 PM)Paplane Wrote: Any of the top 5 will have murdered us in the play offs. Weve been hanging by a thread for weeks. We have 11 good players and one way of playing.
If the players get tired or injured then rests dip. Winter transfer window is the absolute reason weve faded. Who was responsible for that needs sacking, not the manager.
I don't know Brentford have also completely collapsed, I can't really see them recovering.
Losing a couple of games after winning eight on the bounce is perhaps a bit more acceptable.
Agreed, but doesn't make it any easier to actually get up for the playoffs, particularly with the short turn around.
RE: Nottingham Forest - Stoke City - Username - 22-07-2020
(22-07-2020, 09:51 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Somewhere in Nottingham right now there is a young lad called Joao with his feet up cracking a beer and a little smirk on his face.
He was at the game and clearly gutted.
RE: Nottingham Forest - Stoke City - TrickySte - 22-07-2020
Rode our luck all season playing boring 1 dimensional Football, however I didnt expect it to bite us on the arse this spectacularly. Ironically we played alright until we started to deliberately slow the game down.
Not sure what happens with Sabri, knowing EM's track record a change wouldn't surprise me, however he's dragged decent results out of an ordinary bunch. Needs to adapt his Foorball though.
RE: Nottingham Forest - Stoke City - the jock - 22-07-2020
Sadly . Could see it coming
RE: Nottingham Forest - Stoke City - Colnago - 22-07-2020
(22-07-2020, 10:26 PM)Paplane Wrote:The manager gets paid to find solutions, he couldn’t do it(22-07-2020, 10:24 PM)Colnago Wrote:(22-07-2020, 10:21 PM)Paplane Wrote: Any of the top 5 will have murdered us in the play offs. Weve been hanging by a thread for weeks. We have 11 good players and one way of playing.You have a point about Jan but as you ve said yourself, we only have one way of playing and that’s cost us over the season
If the players get tired or injured then rests dip. Winter transfer window is the absolute reason weve faded. Who was responsible for that needs sacking, not the manager.
thats down to the manager
The manager cant play attacking football when we have 1 striker in the club. Thats an absolute shambles of a situation. Its not his fault unless the decisons not to buy was his, which i doubt.
you have to have a plan B he might not buy the players but he identifies what style of player
RE: Nottingham Forest - Stoke City - wassy04 - 22-07-2020
The Barnsley game was an embarrassing piece of management. Completely on him that one. Just a crazy decision to change formation like that, to a difficult tactic to play. No excuse for that for me, was much more angry then than now
RE: Nottingham Forest - Stoke City - Username - 22-07-2020
Talking about this game in isolation for a moment we were back in it at one all playing free flowing attacking football then decide to waste time and keep ball, why?
Who’s decision was that?
Steve Hodge was “lapping it up” while I’m screaming at my iPad to go and get a second.
It was embarrassing.
And once Stoke scored we couldn’t get going again.
We hadn’t taken the impetus out of the match, we took it out of our own performance.