(08-09-2021, 04:03 PM)Paplane Wrote:

(08-09-2021, 03:54 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Cooper left Swansea after a catastrophic falling out with their CEO. Im not saying there would be the same situation here, just that with our past history with managers and behind the scens goings on and be honest there will be planty of gossip between football managers, he would need a heck of a lot of reassurance before coming here.

He's no Mourinho! He's out of work and the forest job is one of the top jobs outside of the prem. He'd take it like a shot.

(08-09-2021, 02:57 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote:

(08-09-2021, 01:45 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote:

(08-09-2021, 01:14 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote:

(08-09-2021, 12:57 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: My thoughts are still the same, he'll be gone after the Boro game next Wednesday and the club will regret not doing it early last week instead.

...and he's still waiting for that striker.  A year later.

Are the ageing legs of Grabban and Lyle going to do it?

We're pinning alot on Silva/Brenna as 'makeshifts.'

SA.

Personally don't believe it'd make much of a difference. Grabban's legs may be going but he's a finisher, give him chances in the box and he'll score, we just don't do that under Hughton despite having plenty of creative players in the squad. Alternatively how often in the past have great finishers lost their legs and had a younger player do their running for them in a partnership? Why hasn't Hughton at least tried that option? I'm just not convinced Hughton has a plan outside 4-2-3-1

Our strikers are ancient.  And it's not like our 'young guns' made up the slack in the 1st four games of the season.  Brennan has 1 assist and 1 goal.  But that's not enough.  

Plenty of crap creative players at the club you mean?  The ones that came for £13 million and can't assist or score?  Or Lolley who has been a mere shadow with various problems?  Or Lyle who is on the floor with his hands up in the air?  What about Mighten?  Also spends alot of time falling over.

If you can't defend and you can't score.  You're going down.  Hughton did well with a marginally better team last season to stay up.  And there was nothing the great Brian Clough could have done about it in his final season, either, right?  That's what happens when your recruitment is in crisis.  

We've brought in '10' players, many of whom weren't here in the 1st 4 games.  So they're an unknown quantity with only a mini - pre-season International Break to gel them.  I hope they perform.  I'm cautious.  Who wouldn't be?  But if anyone can claw us out of the bottom 3, it's Hughton.  It will be attritional at 1st.  We need the points.

There is the potential for our strikers to score more if the service is there but that remains to be seen if recruitment has done their job so Hughton can do his.  I don't think we'll see Grabban hit 20 again even with good service.  It remains to be seen if the new players can put it on a plate for old legs.

Hughton should of done this, that and the other.  What?  With a magic wand?  Ironic that as Forest have chopped and changed the managers and the squads they've gone down the table.  No recent Forest manager had to go into a season with a fullback crisis.

But of course, the current incumbent 'should have done this.'

We're still scrabbling about for a striker.  (The last striker Forest spent serious money on is about to enter his mid-30s.)

Yeesh.  Where have we been for the last 24 years?

SA.

(08-09-2021, 06:03 PM)Georgecloney Wrote:

(08-09-2021, 02:57 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote:

(08-09-2021, 01:45 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote:

(08-09-2021, 01:14 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote:

(08-09-2021, 12:57 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote: My thoughts are still the same, he'll be gone after the Boro game next Wednesday and the club will regret not doing it early last week instead.

...and he's still waiting for that striker.  A year later.

Are the ageing legs of Grabban and Lyle going to do it?

We're pinning alot on Silva/Brenna as 'makeshifts.'

SA.

Personally don't believe it'd make much of a difference. Grabban's legs may be going but he's a finisher, give him chances in the box and he'll score, we just don't do that under Hughton despite having plenty of creative players in the squad. Alternatively how often in the past have great finishers lost their legs and had a younger player do their running for them in a partnership? Why hasn't Hughton at least tried that option? I'm just not convinced Hughton has a plan outside 4-2-3-1

Our strikers are ancient.  And it's not like our 'young guns' made up the slack in the 1st four games of the season.  Brennan has 1 assist and 1 goal.  But that's not enough.  

Plenty of crap creative players at the club you mean?  The ones that came for £13 million and can't assist or score?  Or Lolley who has been a mere shadow with various problems?  Or Lyle who is on the floor with his hands up in the air?  What about Mighten?  Also spends alot of time falling over.

If you can't defend and you can't score.  You're going down.  Hughton did well with a marginally better team last season to stay up.  And there was nothing the great Brian Clough could have done about it in his final season, either, right?  That's what happens when your recruitment is in crisis.  

We've brought in '10' players, many of whom weren't here in the 1st 4 games.  So they're an unknown quantity with only a mini - pre-season International Break to gel them.  I hope they perform.  I'm cautious.  Who wouldn't be?  But if anyone can claw us out of the bottom 3, it's Hughton.  It will be attritional at 1st.  We need the points.

There is the potential for our strikers to score more if the service is there but that remains to be seen if recruitment has done their job so Hughton can do his.  I don't think we'll see Grabban hit 20 again even with good service.  It remains to be seen if the new players can put it on a plate for old legs.

Hughton should of done this, that and the other.  What?  With a magic wand?  Ironic that as Forest have chopped and changed the managers and the squads they've gone down the table.  No recent Forest manager had to go into a season with a fullback crisis.

But of course, the current incumbent 'should have done this.'

We're still scrabbling about for a striker.  (The last striker Forest spent serious money on is about to enter his mid-30s.)

Yeesh.  Where have we been for the last 24 years?

SA.

Have Forest got the worst squad in this division. It’s not great but far from the worst. One miserable point to our name and hardly a shot on goal. CH is the most under achieving manager in the division. The sooner he goes the sooner can try and start to recover.

(08-09-2021, 06:31 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote: George Clooney was a crap Batman.

What would he know about Forest?

The table doesn't lie.  For the 1st four games we had the worst team in the division.  To compound that, we decided we didn't need to start the season with fullbacks or a striker under the age of 30.  (But our team wasn't the worst, right?).

We had to bring in ten players. :P

SA.

(08-09-2021, 06:35 PM)SSM Wrote:

(08-09-2021, 06:31 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote: George Clooney was a crap Batman.

What would he know about Forest?

The table doesn't lie.  For the 1st four games we had the worst team in the division.  To compound that, we decided we didn't need to start the season with fullbacks or a striker under the age of 30.  (But our team wasn't the worst, right?).

We had to bring in ten players. :P

SA.

It's a little bit more subjective than that.

(08-09-2021, 06:38 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote:

(08-09-2021, 06:35 PM)SSM Wrote:

(08-09-2021, 06:31 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote: George Clooney was a crap Batman.

What would he know about Forest?

The table doesn't lie.  For the 1st four games we had the worst team in the division.  To compound that, we decided we didn't need to start the season with fullbacks or a striker under the age of 30.  (But our team wasn't the worst, right?).

We had to bring in ten players. :P

SA.

It's a little bit more subjective than that.

No it's not.  It's an objective measurement.  Unless you think Forest are subjectively bottom...  (As for Clooney's Batman, roundly panned by critics...)

Forest were rooted bottom.  And still are.  The table doesn't lie for the set of players we had prior to the 'late' recruitment.  Those players had 0 points.  Couldn't defend.  Couldn't score.  It's relegation material.  We can only hope that Plan B's recruitment works out.  Because it took ages to recruit Forest tossed 12 points.

You have to go back to Lazarus to see the dead being risen.

I wish Christ Hughton the best of luck. 

SA.

(08-09-2021, 08:03 PM)Marinakis Red Wrote: I think it will be a defining week coming up for Hughton. A bad week and it will spell the end.

(08-09-2021, 08:05 PM)Paplane Wrote:

(08-09-2021, 08:03 PM)Marinakis Red Wrote: I think it will be a defining week coming up for Hughton. A bad week and it will spell the end.

Even a point at home on Sunday is going to be difficult for him.