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RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Username - 09-02-2022
I see across some of the media people are now mentioning Rooney as manager of the season in the Championship but given that Cooper effectively also started on minus 21 then he's right up there for me at the moment.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Dog and Bear - 09-02-2022
(09-02-2022, 11:07 AM)Username Wrote: I see across some of the media people are now mentioning Rooney as manager of the season in the Championship but given that Cooper effectively also started on minus 21 then he's right up there for me at the moment.
Cooper playing much better football too and his team have beaten both Arsenal and Leicester.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Strawberry Avenger - 09-02-2022
A good test for Cooper's Forest is if can lift the team to similar performance levels vs Blackburn.
The top 14 has bunched up and Forest could do with a win.
SA.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Fumanchew - 10-02-2022
Just seen on Twitter that Cooper has won as many games as Hughton did his entire tenure as boss! Insane.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Sausage Roll - 10-02-2022
(10-02-2022, 12:57 PM)Fumanchew Wrote: Just seen on Twitter that Cooper has won as many games as Hughton did his entire tenure as boss! Insane.
And in 29 or 30 fewer matches apparently.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - ozzyten10 - 10-02-2022
Without ignoring the complete abject performances under Hughton - I’m led to be believe that he was instrumental in the vision and planning what is currently bearing fruit e.g younger hungry players, proper scouting, data driven performance analysis, changes and integration at NDA…the list goes on.
But the bloody performances on the pitch with him were diabolical
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Strawberry Avenger - 10-02-2022
(10-02-2022, 01:46 PM)ozzyten10 Wrote: Without ignoring the complete abject performances under Hughton - I’m led to be believe that he was instrumental in the vision and planning what is currently bearing fruit e.g younger hungry players, proper scouting, data driven performance analysis, changes and integration at NDA…the list goes on.
But the bloody performances on the pitch with him were diabolical
Something he deserves credit for then. He was 'polite' about our Academy (but he'd been around many Premier facilities) and probably shared how to take it to the next level. There were some remarks when interviewed about our Academy. 'It's decent...but...'
As for the '1st 7' games with him in charge this season. Many of those games were close and Forest did put up a fight in them. But 'shoot yourself in the foot' moments' that decide a game 'by the odd' goal decided a good few of those games. Also. Caveat being the late transfer window. And the lack of fullbacks so crucial to beating Blackburn last night and the positive form under Cooper.
For any stats involving Hughton. A LOT of draws. He did save Forest from a Sabri inspired relegation season which saw them rock bottom after 6 (if you include pre-season) winless games.
Had a hand full of those games or just a few games turned to draws it would have been mid-table finish.
All ifs and buts and maybes.
We didn't really back Hughton. Or MoN.
But we did back Sabri (with alot of signings) and (this January with more incisive transfer work) Cooper.
Forest's ongoing evolution has been a process.
I'm enjoying things the way they are now. Dane. Cooper. Brennan. Yates. Worrall. The fullback loans. It's clicked. We have to credit Cooper for rinsing the most out of it. Luck goes for you when you create the right opportunities and seize them. You have to take them. Last night, Forest did.
SA.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Username - 10-02-2022
(10-02-2022, 01:46 PM)ozzyten10 Wrote: Without ignoring the complete abject performances under Hughton - I’m led to be believe that he was instrumental in the vision and planning what is currently bearing fruit e.g younger hungry players, proper scouting, data driven performance analysis, changes and integration at NDA…the list goes on.
But the bloody performances on the pitch with him were diabolical
Ultimately its a results business and his weren't good enough.
We are better off without him.
The bit about younger hungry players doesn't necessarily accord but he's gone now, thank f**k.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - wassy04 - 10-02-2022
In my opinion, in football in general there are a small percentage of managers that are not great, the majority fall in the middle where their results generally depend on circumstances and momentum, and then a small percentage that offer something extra.
Somehow I'd say the majority of our managers historically fall in that bottom 15% odd, which is telling of previous employment success. Sabri and CH I'd say both fall in that middle group (although CH did make a push to get relegated). Of our recent managers Billy Davies before his issues surfaced went in that top group.
Cooper seems like he's in that top group so far from his career to date. He managed to get the best out of a clearly very average Swansea team that were transitioning to a different model. His impact here has been equally dramatic, the about turn in the ability is amazing. The standard of football is so high too. He's getting better performances from Colback, Garner (this season, although he showed what he could do previously), Yates, Grabban. Fair to also commend the results he's got from Spence and Lowe in particular whose career was stagnating before this move. Hard not to get carried away right now.
Also, love his willingness and ability to adjust during games. Maybe it looks better when put against clearly CHs greatest weakness but still it's proven effective multiple times.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Salvatore Matrecano - 10-02-2022
I know CH is a highly decent and honest bloke with a good track record in management. But I can only judge him on the football he served up whilst he was here. Unfortunately that places him in a very select group also inhabited by Megson, Atkinson and Mclaren.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Tricky - 13-02-2022
And so it begins...
Southampton eyeing up Cooper.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Current Nottingham Forest Manager - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 14-02-2022
Inevitable but not afraid. Steve is loving it at the CG.