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RE: The 2 Infrastructure Projects - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 27-04-2020
So is everything still going to go ahead as planned then JCK?
RE: The 2 Infrastructure Projects - Jean_claude_killy - 27-04-2020
I dont know Sniffer.
The fact that the work has not started at Wilford Road is irrelevant - work like that does not commence the day after planning has been granted.
I would have thought that it would have been planned for the Summer break to avoid disruption.
I do not think there will be any news until things return to some semblence of normality
RE: The 2 Infrastructure Projects - Paplane - 27-04-2020
To be fair, the club have been unlucky with the lock-down as it's now impossible to plan around start & end dates of the season. However, I remain of the view that had they applied for planning for the new stand alone, and not tagged on the apartments, then planning would be in the bag by now. The club's strategy is to use to the wider economic and social benefits of the improved stadium as a lever to achieve a planning permission for the apartments ie, in their currently proposed form, it's unlikely the apartments would get planning permission if submitted as an individual application and so the club are saying, we'll build the city of Nottingham a shiny new stand, if you give us planning for these apartments.
RE: The 2 Infrastructure Projects - Jean_claude_killy - 27-04-2020
(27-04-2020, 12:05 PM)Paplane Wrote: To be fair, the club have been unlucky with the lock-down as it's now impossible to plan around start & end dates of the season. However, I remain of the view that had they applied for planning for the new stand alone, and not tagged on the apartments, then planning would be in the bag by now. The club's strategy is to use to the wider economic and social benefits of the improved stadium as a lever to achieve a planning permission for the apartments ie, in their currently proposed form, it's unlikely the apartments would get planning permission if submitted as an individual application and so the club are saying, we'll build the city of Nottingham a shiny new stand, if you give us planning for these apartments.
The sale of those appartments will go a very long way towards paying for the New Stand; I would guess that the Stand is totally dependent on the appartments
RE: The 2 Infrastructure Projects - Paplane - 27-04-2020
(27-04-2020, 12:11 PM)Jean_claude_killy Wrote:(27-04-2020, 12:05 PM)Paplane Wrote: To be fair, the club have been unlucky with the lock-down as it's now impossible to plan around start & end dates of the season. However, I remain of the view that had they applied for planning for the new stand alone, and not tagged on the apartments, then planning would be in the bag by now. The club's strategy is to use to the wider economic and social benefits of the improved stadium as a lever to achieve a planning permission for the apartments ie, in their currently proposed form, it's unlikely the apartments would get planning permission if submitted as an individual application and so the club are saying, we'll build the city of Nottingham a shiny new stand, if you give us planning for these apartments.
The sale of those appartments will go a very long way towards paying for the New Stand; I would guess that the Stand is totally dependent on the appartments
Yes I accept there's a economical argument to this too and it's easy for me to say but the need to replace of the main stand will have been obvious to any buyer of the club, as it is to us. But an alternative, cheaper stand could be developed without the enabling development. It just takes some cash risk from the owner to do it. Again, easy for me to say from here sat at my desk.
RE: The 2 Infrastructure Projects - Tricky - 27-04-2020
(27-04-2020, 12:53 PM)Paplane Wrote:(27-04-2020, 12:11 PM)Jean_claude_killy Wrote:(27-04-2020, 12:05 PM)Paplane Wrote: To be fair, the club have been unlucky with the lock-down as it's now impossible to plan around start & end dates of the season. However, I remain of the view that had they applied for planning for the new stand alone, and not tagged on the apartments, then planning would be in the bag by now. The club's strategy is to use to the wider economic and social benefits of the improved stadium as a lever to achieve a planning permission for the apartments ie, in their currently proposed form, it's unlikely the apartments would get planning permission if submitted as an individual application and so the club are saying, we'll build the city of Nottingham a shiny new stand, if you give us planning for these apartments.
The sale of those appartments will go a very long way towards paying for the New Stand; I would guess that the Stand is totally dependent on the appartments
Yes I accept there's a economical argument to this too and it's easy for me to say but the need to replace of the main stand will have been obvious to any buyer of the club, as it is to us. But an alternative, cheaper stand could be developed without the enabling development. It just takes some cash risk from the owner to do it. Again, easy for me to say from here sat at my desk.
In all fairness to EM, this is exactly what the yank consortium were likely to do if Fuckwit had sold the club to them, although I think JJ Moores was looking at the Rushcliffe centre more than building a new block of apartments. Then again, it would not be absurd to assume he maybe would've gone down the same route that EM is planning on going down as well considering he did say he wanted to turn approaching the Main Stand as an experience similar to walking down Wembley Way
RE: What Happens Next - Resume Or Not To Resume - Widdow - 19-05-2020
With potentially no fans in the stadium for remaining 2020, wouldn't it be a an ideal time (especially with more folk going back to work like builders, and rules being relaxed in June / July) that we started to do the work on the new stand?
Of course need to get it approved, but when will that process start up again?
RE: What Happens Next - Resume Or Not To Resume - Widdow - 19-05-2020
The stadium is going to be packed when we can all attend to cheer on the Reds, we will need the extra seats!
RE: What Happens Next - Resume Or Not To Resume - wassy04 - 19-05-2020
(19-05-2020, 12:08 PM)Widdow Wrote: With potentially no fans in the stadium for remaining 2020, wouldn't it be a an ideal time (especially with more folk going back to work like builders, and rules being relaxed in June / July) that we started to do the work on the new stand?
Of course need to get it approved, but when will that process start up again?
It may depend whether a can still afford it, the club (as with most in champ) will lose a lot of money this season/next without crowds so may depend on how that is resolved
RE: What Happens Next - Resume Or Not To Resume - Legs On Stilts - 19-05-2020
(19-05-2020, 12:08 PM)Widdow Wrote: With potentially no fans in the stadium for remaining 2020, wouldn't it be a an ideal time (especially with more folk going back to work like builders, and rules being relaxed in June / July) that we started to do the work on the new stand?
Of course need to get it approved, but when will that process start up again?
Not for a very long time.
RE: The 2 Infrastructure Projects - wassy04 - 25-07-2020
Anyone heard any updates on this? With the pandemic situation we should still be pursuing this now while there are no crowds. Obviously depends on whether the finances are still there but it would feel like a real legacy from the current owners that they could leave if it happened
RE: The 2 Infrastructure Projects - ThePromisedLand - 25-07-2020
Agree. What better way - especially if we are to take a more long term perspective on building a squad - to show the fans you’re serious & in it for the long term.