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RE: The Next Chapter - Duncan Mckenzie - 15-01-2019

Just to put this Ireland thing to bed.

Giovanni Trapattoni, remember him?

He is considered to be the most successful manager EVER in Serie A in Italy.

Did he manage to do anything with Ireland though in the 5 years he was there? Did he f**k!


RE: The Next Chapter - Alf - 15-01-2019

Folk are flat out dolts if they think the job he had at ROI is anything like the job here. MON's style & methods are so ideally suited to a Division 2 club it's unreal.

Seriously - considering the fact that AK dropped us in it by walking - I don't think we could be landing better currently. Personally I'd sooner have MON than Jokanivic


RE: The Next Chapter - the jock - 15-01-2019

keane inspired a dramatic turn around at sunderland and got them promoted.

19 games to go. coyr


RE: The Next Chapter - Largo Latacunga - 15-01-2019

(15-01-2019, 10:33 AM)Supa Billy Davies Wrote: Folk are flat out dolts if they think the job he had at ROI is anything like the job here. MON's style & methods are so ideally suited to a Division 2 club it's unreal.

Seriously - considering the fact that AK dropped us in it by walking - I don't think we could be landing better currently. Personally I'd sooner have MON than Jokanivic

I hope so but would have serious concerns. I know MON is an excellent man motivator but the main gripe with Irish and Sunderland fans was that he doesn't really do tactics or analyse the opposition. 

Matt Doherty stated in an interview that they were basically sent out with no formation or instructions whatsoever and had to make it up themselves. The likes of Warnock and Wilder may play a direct style of football but they are also tactically very good. We will have to wait and see.


RE: The Next Chapter - Dog and Bear - 15-01-2019

It's obvious that Doherty has a gripe with O'Neill about something.

Martin O'Neill is an extremely educated man.

The thought that he would send out a team with no formation or instructions is an insult to the man and frankly laughable.


RE: The Next Chapter - Alf - 15-01-2019

(15-01-2019, 11:09 AM)Largo Latacunga Wrote:
(15-01-2019, 10:33 AM)Supa Billy Davies Wrote: Folk are flat out dolts if they think the job he had at ROI is anything like the job here. MON's style & methods are so ideally suited to a Division 2 club it's unreal.

Seriously - considering the fact that AK dropped us in it by walking - I don't think we could be landing better currently. Personally I'd sooner have MON than Jokanivic

I hope so but would have serious concerns. I know MON is an excellent man motivator but the main gripe with Irish and Sunderland fans was that he doesn't really do tactics or analyse the opposition. 

Matt Doherty stated in an interview that they were basically sent out with no formation or instructions whatsoever and had to make it up themselves. The likes of Warnock and Wilder may play a direct style of football but they are also tactically very good. We will have to wait and see.
Folk overcomplicate things. Sadly the ROI player pool is so small MON had to chose from players so dull they can't think on their own feet a bit.

MON is one of the most intelligent people I've ever met. I mean off the scale. My mate used to play centre half under him at the dippers and in his words "4 at the back was the same as 3 at the back & 5 at the back to me, I just moved around a bit". There's no need to get complicated.

Take a look at Wilder at Sheff U. No tactical masterclasses, just a bunch of solid lads, some with some genuine Sheff connections such as Sharpe, all playing for each other, hunting in packs, and on the lash down Sheff after every win. Worked miracles with a squad half the value of mosts, sat 2nd in the league.

It's a load of folk who've never been near the real game trying to impose Championship Manager standards on it. In reality a lot of the stuff folk thinks matters doesn't.
MON is ideal to get us out this league.


RE: The Next Chapter - Strawberry Avenger - 15-01-2019

(15-01-2019, 10:45 AM)the jock Wrote: keane inspired a dramatic turn around at sunderland and got them promoted.

19 games to go. coyr

True.

SA.


RE: The Next Chapter - Strawberry Avenger - 15-01-2019

(15-01-2019, 11:22 AM)Supa Billy Davies Wrote:
(15-01-2019, 11:09 AM)Largo Latacunga Wrote:
(15-01-2019, 10:33 AM)Supa Billy Davies Wrote: Folk are flat out dolts if they think the job he had at ROI is anything like the job here. MON's style & methods are so ideally suited to a Division 2 club it's unreal.

Seriously - considering the fact that AK dropped us in it by walking - I don't think we could be landing better currently. Personally I'd sooner have MON than Jokanivic

I hope so but would have serious concerns. I know MON is an excellent man motivator but the main gripe with Irish and Sunderland fans was that he doesn't really do tactics or analyse the opposition. 

Matt Doherty stated in an interview that they were basically sent out with no formation or instructions whatsoever and had to make it up themselves. The likes of Warnock and Wilder may play a direct style of football but they are also tactically very good. We will have to wait and see.
Folk overcomplicate things. Sadly the ROI player pool is so small MON had to chose from players so dull they can't think on their own feet a bit.

MON is one of the most intelligent people I've ever met. I mean off the scale. My mate used to play centre half under him at the dippers and in his words "4 at the back was the same as 3 at the back & 5 at the back to me, I just moved around a bit". There's no need to get complicated.

Take a look at Wilder at Sheff U. No tactical masterclasses, just a bunch of solid lads, some with some genuine Sheff connections such as Sharpe, all playing for each other, hunting in packs, and on the lash down Sheff after every win. Worked miracles with a squad half the value of mosts, sat 2nd in the league.

It's a load of folk who've never been near the real game trying to impose Championship Manager standards on it. In reality a lot of the stuff folk thinks matters doesn't.
MON is ideal to get us out this league.

...and stay(!) in the Premier.

SA.


RE: The Next Chapter - Strawberry Avenger - 15-01-2019

(15-01-2019, 11:16 AM)Noor 1 Crew Wrote: It's obvious that Doherty has a gripe with O'Neill about something.

Martin O'Neill is an extremely educated man.

The thought that he would send out a team with no formation or instructions is an insult to the man and frankly laughable.

Took them long enough to welcome Brian back and honour him with the naming of the stand his football genius built.

SA.


RE: The Next Chapter - Strawberry Avenger - 15-01-2019

(15-01-2019, 09:35 AM)Duncan Mckenzie Wrote: Just to put this Ireland thing to bed.

Giovanni Trapattoni, remember him?

He is considered to be the most successful manager EVER in Serie A in Italy.

Did he manage to do anything with Ireland though in the 5 years he was there? Did he f**k!

Aye.  Fuzzy duck.  Duck fuzzy.

If Italy's main man couldn't do it...what were people expecting of Martin (who walked on water to do what he did...)

And that augers well for Forest.  If he can get a mediocre Ireland team to perform as well as it did...then that shows that Martin knows how to get the best out of what he has.

SA.


RE: The Next Chapter - Strawberry Avenger - 15-01-2019

(15-01-2019, 10:33 AM)Supa Billy Davies Wrote: Folk are flat out dolts if they think the job he had at ROI is anything like the job here. MON's style & methods are so ideally suited to a Division 2 club it's unreal.

Seriously - considering the fact that AK dropped us in it by walking - I don't think we could be landing better currently. Personally I'd sooner have MON than Jokanivic

Agreed.

...and they'll be more than suited to roughing up the Premier to ensure survive.  The 1st thing is just to get there.

...and he's eminently qualified.

His teams have oft' been accused of kicking other teams off the park.  That's fine by me.  (Having been old manned by Cardiff twice last season...oh...and they're in the Premier...)

We want winning football.  And he's qualified to give us that.

SA.


RE: The Next Chapter - Alf - 15-01-2019

(15-01-2019, 05:31 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote:
(15-01-2019, 10:33 AM)Supa Billy Davies Wrote: Folk are flat out dolts if they think the job he had at ROI is anything like the job here. MON's style & methods are so ideally suited to a Division 2 club it's unreal.

Seriously - considering the fact that AK dropped us in it by walking - I don't think we could be landing better currently. Personally I'd sooner have MON than Jokanivic

Agreed.

...and they'll be more than suited to roughing up the Premier to ensure survive.  The 1st thing is just to get there.

...and he's eminently qualified.

His teams have oft' been accused of kicking other teams off the park.  That's fine by me.  (Having been old manned by Cardiff twice last season...oh...and they're in the Premier...)

We want winning football.  And he's qualified to give us that.

SA.

Yup. It also makes me chuckle that he's slated for "only" keeping Sunderland up, and apparently did a poor job there because when he left them they were "only" just outside of the relegation zone when they sacked him.

Well they sure have done well since they sacked him haven't they lol. Finishing in similar positions each year in the Prem to where he left them, and then spiralling downwards to L1