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RE: Evangelos Marinakis And Co - ac_vodka - 02-12-2020
Its very easy to focus on the negatives and cast aside everything else that has improved I do wonder on the timing of this as already stated unlikely to help anyone. I really hope we ride this out and can just focus on football over next few weeks and get up the table, we can`t change the past and we`ve seen signs of improvement with some of the transfers but obviously still some of the issues persist on that front.
RE: Evangelos Marinakis And Co - Salvatore Matrecano - 02-12-2020
In the short term this article is certainly damaging and will do the team no favours tonight. However the fact that we are seemingly going backwards at the moment tells me that something is wrong behind the scenes which is filtering through to performances on the pitch. Taylor is trying to shed some light on those issues which if they are resolved can only be a good thing.
The owner has put a lot of money into the club, his intentions are good but I worry how long he will sustain his investment without results. I suggest if even a fraction of the problems that have been written about are true then he would do well to address them.
RE: Evangelos Marinakis And Co - Mad Squad - 02-12-2020
(02-12-2020, 01:43 PM)Paplane Wrote:(02-12-2020, 01:36 PM)Jasper Scarrott Wrote: We won two games and all this stopped now we have lost 3 and it starts again. Very bad timing with an important game tonight.
Agree and agree. Why didn't he publish yesterday? The players will be reading this today as they rest up. It might only be a small consideration to them but I know for sure it'll definitely do no good.
Not sure what Taylor's motive is but what he is doing doesn't sit right with me.
I don't recall him doing this type of thing when Fawaz was in charge but then again he wasn't working behind a subscription wall fee then.
RE: Evangelos Marinakis And Co - Sausage Roll - 02-12-2020
(02-12-2020, 02:02 PM)Mad Squad Wrote:(02-12-2020, 01:43 PM)Paplane Wrote:(02-12-2020, 01:36 PM)Jasper Scarrott Wrote: We won two games and all this stopped now we have lost 3 and it starts again. Very bad timing with an important game tonight.
Agree and agree. Why didn't he publish yesterday? The players will be reading this today as they rest up. It might only be a small consideration to them but I know for sure it'll definitely do no good.
Not sure what Taylor's motive is but what he is doing doesn't sit right with me.
I don't recall him doing this type of thing when Fawaz was in charge but then again he wasn't working behind a subscription wall fee then.
Pretty sure it was him who was talking about Carry on Kuwait during Fawaz's tenure.
RE: Evangelos Marinakis And Co - Mad Squad - 02-12-2020
(02-12-2020, 02:04 PM)Sausage Roll Wrote:(02-12-2020, 02:02 PM)Mad Squad Wrote:(02-12-2020, 01:43 PM)Paplane Wrote:(02-12-2020, 01:36 PM)Jasper Scarrott Wrote: We won two games and all this stopped now we have lost 3 and it starts again. Very bad timing with an important game tonight.
Agree and agree. Why didn't he publish yesterday? The players will be reading this today as they rest up. It might only be a small consideration to them but I know for sure it'll definitely do no good.
Not sure what Taylor's motive is but what he is doing doesn't sit right with me.
I don't recall him doing this type of thing when Fawaz was in charge but then again he wasn't working behind a subscription wall fee then.
Pretty sure it was him who was talking about Carry on Kuwait during Fawaz's tenure.
Carry On Kuwait? What was that all about then? I am sure it was just a throw back comment nothing like the stuff he's writing now.
RE: Evangelos Marinakis And Co - Salvatore Matrecano - 02-12-2020
Taylor was writing for the Guardian in the Fawaz days. He did a massive hatchet job on the regime then. Whether it was truthful and justified then as now you can be your own judge.
RE: Evangelos Marinakis And Co - stirred - 02-12-2020
The timing may be related to the growing unrest. Fans’ unhappiness is growing with each match we fail to win, and they look for someone to blame. Taylor’s comments seem to be trying to direct the focus of that building unhappiness upstairs rather than at the manager.
RE: Evangelos Marinakis And Co - Salvatore Matrecano - 02-12-2020
(02-12-2020, 02:19 PM)stirred Wrote: The timing may be related to the growing unrest. Fans’ unhappiness is growing with each match we fail to win, and they look for someone to blame. Taylor’s comments seem to be trying to direct the focus of that building unhappiness upstairs rather than at the manager.
Almost all of us agree we have an excellent manager.
Most apparently think we have some good players (a few rotten ones too but there are enough good ones there).
Therefore where else can the problem be if not something away from the pitch?
RE: Evangelos Marinakis And Co - ThePromisedLand - 02-12-2020
Coincidentally some interesting observations from Luke Steele on the ‘Undr The Cosh’ podcast relating to his time playing in Greece. The culture in Greek football is clearly a million miles from ours - and possibly explains some of the issues that EM & Vrentzos are experiencing in trying to impose their blueprint on Forest.
RE: Evangelos Marinakis And Co - Mad Squad - 02-12-2020
(02-12-2020, 02:18 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Taylor was writing for the Guardian in the Fawaz days. He did a massive hatchet job on the regime then. Whether it was truthful and justified then as now you can be your own judge.
Like I said nothing like what is being written now. Most of that in that article relates to how Fawaz wanted to sell the club. Other than that there is a piece on unpaid players that was common knowledge long before Taylor mentioned it.
RE: Evangelos Marinakis And Co - Alf - 02-12-2020
(02-12-2020, 02:27 PM)Mad Squad Wrote:(02-12-2020, 02:18 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Taylor was writing for the Guardian in the Fawaz days. He did a massive hatchet job on the regime then. Whether it was truthful and justified then as now you can be your own judge.
Like I said nothing like what is being written now. Most of that in that article relates to how Fawaz wanted to sell the club. Other than that there is a piece on unpaid players that was common knowledge long before Taylor mentioned it.
Eh? "Carry on Kuwait" was an attack on Fawaz & Davies very early into Fawaz's tenure........
The problem for Nottingham Forest is that they now have a chairman who fancies himself as a would-be manager and a manager who fancies himself as a would-be chairman. Perhaps the new regime of Fawaz al-Hasawi and Billy Davies will work but it is a combustible mix and something might have to give if it is not going to be another passing romance.
Davies lasted two and a half years at Forest before he wore down the previous regime with his Scrappy Doo-style belligerence, always looking for a row and permanently dissatisfied with the people above him. Mutual contempt, you could call it. "I'd have had him against the wall if he behaved like that with me," as one Championship chairman put it at the time. He is now rejoining a club where the previous bloke, Alex McLeish, wanted a new goalkeeper and asked for Rob Green, Lukasz Fabianski or Paul Robinson. Hasawi helpfully delivered the guy from the Kuwait national team instead.
Hasawi, meanwhile, has employed a PR firm to try to help restore some credibility after the bashing that accompanies being on his fourth manager since July, not to mention firing virtually the entire board, all that George Boyd silliness and various other embarrassments. Good luck to him, too, because Forest have endured enough, post-Brian Clough, without becoming football's equivalent of Carry On Kuwait.
The message from Hasawi is that it is not true that he interferes with team selection or dictates transfer targets. He did, however, also insist recently there was no issue with McLeish. "We have a very good working relationship and it troubles me greatly that people think otherwise." That was four days before McLeish quit.
Hasawi certainly does not do things the orthodox way judging by Sean O'Driscoll turning up for one afternoon meeting and apparently finding the Forest owner in his pyjamas. Forest recently spent £1m on two giant screens for the City Ground. Very nice, too. Yet the groundstaff were apparently told they could not have new frost mats because they were too expensive
RE: Evangelos Marinakis And Co - Jean_claude_killy - 02-12-2020
Fairly sure Billy had Danny banned from the Ground after that article