(25-08-2021, 08:08 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Look pal I am fed up of one or two (that's all it is) coming onto this forum to slag off our owners and then to hide behind this forum.
Don't use this forum to hide behind.
You are entitled to your opinion and to slag our owners off that is your right but don't use this forum for your platform to do it and to hide behind.

If you have a problem with EM then take it to him directly not via this forum.
Get yourself down to the City Ground with your little flags and banners and start your protest in front of the cameras.
Grow some balls, front him up directly and stop taking the cowards way out by hiding behind this forum.
Do you have the balls to do that?

(25-08-2021, 08:47 AM)Marinakis Red Wrote: Wow what happened over night?

(25-08-2021, 08:50 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote:

(25-08-2021, 08:47 AM)Marinakis Red Wrote: Wow what happened over night?

We lost a football match so the usual suspects were baying for blood.

(25-08-2021, 07:58 AM)Uwantlee Wrote:

(25-08-2021, 06:47 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Well I hope EM reads that and he walks away.

In fact I will send it to him.

Some of our 'fans' really are gutter level to be polite.

Boo hoo sniff... someone challenges what the greeks have done and you thow your toys out. Bloody gutter level... one word against them and you start with the threats.... we're upset... hurting... and where is our glorious owner. I don't care who he has employed to work for him. It's his club its his responsibility. He needs to get his arse to Nottingham and get this sorted.

OK we are in a better state off the field than when fawaz was here but christ man you get a grip.

Seriously we are in more danger of relegation now than we ever were under fawaz and all of the off field stuff ain't gonna help us.

Emotions are running high with supporters having to sit and watch our club be in the position it is and all you can do is sulk and threaten to send it to him... do it. It might make him realise that he's gotta actually do something. Hiring and firing managers, watching us spunk money away and then changing tact leaving us in real danger.

Let me ask this question... if we do get relegated will EM be any better than fawaz then? We never got relegated under fawaz. Don't get me wrong I hated fawaz and don't want him back and I am desperate to see EM succeed as you are sniff but its time for him to deliver as we further away from the premiership than we have been for 14 years.

Cat 1, stadium plans (that's all they are at the moment) staffing changes all mean nothing when the club is in the state its in on the pitch.

Is EM the man to succeed and take us forward... I hope so. If this season carries on much longer in then waybit has then he will find a lot more fans questioning him... and we are within our rights to.

Apologies if I have offended here but I am fuming at the way the club is being run at present and I do not wish to upset.

(25-08-2021, 07:47 AM)Alf Wrote:

(25-08-2021, 07:08 AM)ac_vodka Wrote: There are certainly some comparisons based on achievements over a period of 4 years but I think that is where the comparisons end - you could apply that same filter to other previous owners also in terms of footballing success. However lets be clear

- No FFP embargos
- players wages - paid with more scrutiny on that now we would have likely received point deductions had it happened today
- No appointing a stuck off lawyer to act as CEO
- No appointing a former groundsman/light engineer as CEO
- No banning of media ( yes this was Billy D but approved by Fawaz )
- No Twitter`ing - to many examples  tragic comedy exchanges
- Creditability with EFL as Randal now part of the committee.
- Cat1 status
-  New ground plans close to sign off and significant investment to achieve
- Making money on some transfers
- No commissioned paintings of EM in the Clough era as if he was involved.
- Improvements to the commercial operations ( although the latest catering one is a negative so far )
- No interference into team selection
- No eye test issues
- Not arranging contracts on nights out with players
- 150th Anniversary shambles.
- Treatment of Frank Clark / Paul Faulkner
- Selling players and informing the press before the manager - JL/KD

The list could go on.

I know we are in a poor state currently with the squad and results and I get people are concerned but its not the sad story it was previously.

Certainly room for improvement, as with anything and that is currently what we want to see from the new leadership but it will take time to embed and remove our more recent mistakes from history ( e.g the Carvalho experiment and the madness of the last window ) and evolve our ethos in terms of transfers.

That's a very one sided post which fails to recognize the current regime's similar failings. Fazza's era didn't have.....

- A head of recruitment arrested on suspicion of extortion
- A boat load of other criminal allegations attached to the owner
- The constant sales of our best or academy players each year, with said money usually reinvested in dross
- Very little communication from the club for long periods of time
- Reject players from the owners other club bogging down the wage bill, whilst pinching/trying to pinch our better ones such as Silva & Ribero.

And Vrentroz very much tried to interfere with team selections according to DT. One of the reasons for the AK fallout as he would play Appiah.

I'm not gonna even entertain to mirror stuff like petty stuff like paintings, eye tests. You could say Fazza didn't fee us BS like affording managers "The Precious Commodity Of Time" but that's all fluff talk anyway.

Don't get me wrong, I think off the pitch EM is better than Fawaz by a decent margin. But let's not lose perspective of the realties of the situation. There have been issues to be concerned about.

There's plenty to be positive about to, but it's understandable that some fans have some concerns.

(25-08-2021, 08:41 AM)HebdenRed Wrote:

(25-08-2021, 08:08 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Look pal I am fed up of one or two (that's all it is) coming onto this forum to slag off our owners and then to hide behind this forum.
Don't use this forum to hide behind.
You are entitled to your opinion and to slag our owners off that is your right but don't use this forum for your platform to do it and to hide behind.

If you have a problem with EM then take it to him directly not via this forum.
Get yourself down to the City Ground with your little flags and banners and start your protest in front of the cameras.
Grow some balls, front him up directly and stop taking the cowards way out by hiding behind this forum.
Do you have the balls to do that?

Top post. 

We’re all here because we’ve got Forest in out blood and we’re all hurting and pissed off

We don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes but we have to trust 

Mistakes have been made but the club do genuinely seem to be learning from them and trying to put a structure in place to change things. 

It takes time to make an impact that has substance and leaves a legacy rather than just making knee jerk change


We are all hurting; we’re all pissed off and we’re all managers or scouts with ideas on formations ans players etc

Debate is great and I love to read other people’s views on here 


Toxicity and all out hatred is bad. 

Sniffer - top work on the forum; chin up. 

Onto Saturday. Keep the faith. 

Until we hear anything official regarding finances / lack of them / Dane is S**t / Vrentzos is interfering / board are sleepwalking through disaster then I’m still supportive 


We nearly went to the wall under Fawaz. We were close to not having an NFFC. Let that sink in. 


I fully expect a backlash to this post but this is my opinion. You can disagree with it all that you want. All I ask is that you respect it.