Summer 2024 - What Do We Need To Do?
#13
Depends on quite a lot of factors. If Nuno stays and we sell Gibbs-White, then I wouldn’t be surprised if we changed formation to a 5 at the back formation and didn’t go for a replacement number 10. I think we’re probably an attractive prospect for young players. We’ve launched the careers of Murillo and helped Gibbs-White reach the next level. We’ve also rejuvenated Hudson-Odoi and Elanga (to a lesser extent)
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#14
What about the situation with Sangare I saw he came on yesterday. Is it a stick with him or out of the door?
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#15
(20-05-2024, 08:42 AM)Squarered Wrote: Does anyone know where we are going to be FFP wise really? We have more headroom with the 3 year rolling assessment with another year in the prem. We have Johnson and Mangala money to go into the calculation but they are going to change the system anyway I think. Also finally Arter will be off the books! I really have no idea..

I am really not into all this fianacial stuff and I have no idea how it all works but haven't we already blown the Johnson money on Sanagre or doesn't it work like that?
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#16
Ahhh the Johnson money, just as the gunter money ran out
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#17
(20-05-2024, 08:36 AM)wassy04 Wrote: For me it's just simply make sure we don't fail FFP again, by whatever means necessary. Then once that is done we see what we have left and what we need/who we need to replace.

This is it for me as well wassy. We absolutely have to be compliant and within FFP.
We need coordination between finance and recruitment and not allowing one person to make deals without consent of all parties involved. I believe our recruitment has gotten a lot right recently tbf but as you say we can't fail FFP again. Because of this, we need to get our business done early (not only because of FFP but also so that we can have a settled, productive preseason). Also, because of the last few summer buying sprees, our preseasons have been absolute sh** shows because we often did our business late and players did not get a preseason to bed in. Those days need to be long gone.
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#18
My understanding is that the Johnson sale money will be included but we'd still be short of complying. We'd also be short even if we sell Mangala and that's included.
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#19
(20-05-2024, 02:04 PM)Fumanchew Wrote: Ahhh the Johnson money, just as the gunter money ran out

Don't forget the Frank Clark money.
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#20
(20-05-2024, 01:56 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote:
(20-05-2024, 08:42 AM)Squarered Wrote: Does anyone know where we are going to be FFP wise really? We have more headroom with the 3 year rolling assessment with another year in the prem. We have Johnson and Mangala money to go into the calculation but they are going to change the system anyway I think. Also finally Arter will be off the books! I really have no idea..

I am really not into all this fianacial stuff and I have no idea how it all works but haven't we already blown the Johnson money on Sanagre or doesn't it work like that?

No sniff Johnson was straight profit and the the fee for Sangare will be amortised over the length of his contract. Think it was 4 years wasn't it? So would 9m a year on the books pretty much.
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#21
(20-05-2024, 02:10 PM)Sausage Roll Wrote: My understanding is that the Johnson sale money will be included but we'd still be short of complying. We'd also be short even if we sell Mangala and that's included.

That's my understanding as well SR. They've been included and I know they will help. Our projected losses are 12-17 mil.
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#22
(20-05-2024, 02:28 PM)Woan Wrote:
(20-05-2024, 02:10 PM)Sausage Roll Wrote: My understanding is that the Johnson sale money will be included but we'd still be short of complying. We'd also be short even if we sell Mangala and that's included.

That's my understanding as well SR. They've been included and I know they will help. Our projected losses are 12-17 mil.

If thats the case (hopefully) no need to sell a high profile player surely we can make that up by 4 or 5 periphery players going ( i know easier said than done)
Here we go.....
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#23
(20-05-2024, 02:42 PM)Simon Wrote:
(20-05-2024, 02:28 PM)Woan Wrote:
(20-05-2024, 02:10 PM)Sausage Roll Wrote: My understanding is that the Johnson sale money will be included but we'd still be short of complying. We'd also be short even if we sell Mangala and that's included.

That's my understanding as well SR. They've been included and I know they will help. Our projected losses are 12-17 mil.

If thats the case (hopefully) no need to sell a high profile player surely we can make that up by 4 or 5 periphery players going ( i know easier said than done)

That would be ideal Simon. I'd like to know what our amortisation costs are on our players. I know that one reason people talk of selling Murillo is that we can get a very nice fee but also because we only have I think, 9 mil in amortisation costs left on him.
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#24
So would we sell Yates for £15m if it meant keeping Murillo and Morgan Gibbs White.
Here we go.....
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