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I don't buy into this 'we finished above them' stuff.
I think after the first 6 or 7 games of the season Hudders were about 12 points above us.
So over the last 39 games (since Cooper came in) we have been much better than them.
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(22-05-2022, 08:11 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: I don't buy into this 'we finished above them' stuff.
I think after the first 6 or 7 games of the season Hudders were about 12 points above us.
So over the last 39 games (since Cooper came in) we have been much better than them.
Also, we have beaten them twice this season, and when we did lose to them, they went and blagged the only goal, despite us battering them but just couldn't find the back of the net!
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(21-05-2022, 09:47 PM)Joe Baker Legend Wrote: Also Samba... That boy has more than one mistake in him a game. He was outstanding last night no doubt but I have a feeling he will have a bit of a shocker against us. That back 4 in front of him are pretty average.
Would that be the back THREE that were 2nd to Bournemouth by 1 goal in the goals against table?
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Hudders fans haven't done their homework before writing those comments have they.
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(22-05-2022, 11:59 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Hudders fans haven't done their homework before writing those comments have they.
You need brains to do homework Sniff. Most Hudds fans that I have met remind me of that Hill Billy family in Deliverance!
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Back 4 pretty average is doing them a disservice to be honest - Worrall is very good and will certainly be off to the prem if they don’t go up. They’ve conceded 7 less than us this season after having a shocking start.
Don’t judge their last performance as their quality over the whole season.
90th minute winner I can see , either rhodes or Holmes to score, jumping into stand celebrating with us and Holmes gives the wanker sign towards the forest fans and see them lot cry and start the fireworks
They are clear favourites & were the underdogs
It’s the reversal of the semi final but we saw that was close… and could have gone the other way
There’s nothing to say it can’t go out way on the day
We’ve got a good habit of not conceding when under pressure and scoring a set piece winner
Add to that in m our last 4 appearances in the play off finals we’ve scored 0, conceded 3 but been promoted 3 times - never write us off!
That is an incredible stat.
I’m confused that we’ve conceded 3 but scored none, are you including penalties in this?
In 90 mins & extra time in all 5 play off finals we’ve been in we’ve scored 2, conceded 4 in 5 games and been promoted 4 times
95 Bristol R 2-1
04 Mansfield 0-0 (4-1 pen)
11 Peterborough 0-3
12 Sheff Utd 0-0 (8-7 pen)
17 Reading 0-0 (4-3 pen)
Aha, makes sense now! Crazy stat indeed
And if we win we'll be 5 time play off champions. Can anyone beat that? Think Blackpool have 4...
Feel a bit sorry for Pearson who's been a big part of our defence most of this campaign. Lees is playing at his maximum just now though, but my concerns are over Colwill,Sarr and Pipa who to me all have a mistake in them.
Turton has done well so I'd have him in a back 4..with Toffs at lb. We can't afford to leave space behind our fullbacks or we will be fully exposed.. I remember that 1st half at forest in the cup where Ruffles had an absolute nightmare at lb and was taken off at half time..
With you on that & I'd be delighted if he could play a part in this, but my gut tells me - particularly given he's not even been on the bench - that he won't be involved.
Could really use the solidity he provides if he is available though.
With you on leaving space behind fullbacks. They are outstanding on the wings & can carve sides open if you give them the opportunity. As much as I rate Pipa, I think this is a game for Turton.
Surprised to read it's Forest's first trip to Wembley since '92?
I make this our 6th trip there in that time?
Crystal Palace also have 4. But I think that's it.
The key advantage we hold over them is fitness & resilience. In both semis they looked leggy as f**k after 60 min and were a yard off the pace all over the pitch, and with better finishing the Blades would have killed them off. If we can keep them at bay for that long then the more time drags on, the more it will favour us.
Actually wish this game was tomorrow and get it out of the way.
Going to be a long 10 days.
We have nothing to fear, yes, they are a good side & the manager is as good as he is ugly, but we are a good side too, with a half decent manager to boot.
They may be the bookies favourites but serious gamblers will likely be on us.... we finished above them, have a seriously good play off record & have a much better record over the last 5 or 6 games. The pressure is all on Forest, who, apparently, only have to turn up to win.
I believe they edge it on individual skill but I'd back our team spirit over anyone's.
Let's just enjoy it, trust in the lads &, whatever happens, we have far surpassed this season what anyone on here thought at the start of the season.
Its all about the pressure. Those players are not robots and they will be feeling it. The Premier League, ok some will never get to step out on the grass next season, but you know they want it. They want the Cup, they want the glory. This isn't like a normal league game, its immense. A single moment, a single mistake or a flash of brilliance from either side can win it. Expect Thomas to start, quality balls right from the off. Rhodes has a calm head, I think we will score at least once in 90 minutes, then its down to Nichols and the defence to keep it clean. How is anybody going to get any sleep over the next 10 days
Far too many players deserving to start at this point. By my reckoning:
Nicholls, Turton, Pipa, Pearson, Lees, Hogg, Colwill, Sarr, Toffolo, Russell, O'Brien, Holmes, Sinani, Thomas, Ward, and Rhodes all deserve a starting spot based on their performances in the last 5 games (apart from Pearson who was injured but still a key figure when he was playing). That makes 16.
Defence is very, very settled so can't see Pearson forcing his way back in. We know it won't be both Ward and Rhodes (I'm tempted to start Ward and introduce Rhodes). Turton if fit I think should be on the bench with Pipa starting. Colwill I think would deal with their type of attacking threat better than Sarr (who's ideal for defending last minute hit and hopers).
That leaves an awkward trilemma of Holmes, Sinani, and Thomas, 1 of whom won't start. Holmes was our best outlet in the first half on Monday and was good in the away leg too, so it would be very harsh to drop him. Sinani played the best I've ever seen him in the away leg, so likewise. And Thomas not only delivered the perfect balls but was so fired up off the ball as well. Someone answer for me!
I think that Carlos will go 4-3-3 starting Turton, Holmes and Sinani
Hogg in midfield
Expect that subs will be Thomas, Pipa and Anjorin barring injuries
If Thomas is fit he has to play he’s too important not too, it’s not just the set pieces it’s his pace and ability to stretch sides.
Previous history & Stats mean nowt.
I honestly think we've the experience, calmness & nous to win this in normal time.
Think it would be absolutely crazy to start Thomas on the bench tbh.
Don’t disagree. I’m just saying what I think Carlos will do. Thomas hasn’t played 90 minutes for a month and he may want him fresh for the second half of the game.
Would be shocked if Thomas isn’t the first name on the team sheet. Might be Holmes starting on the bench.
The only comment I will make is Forest will be more nervous than us, if we can press from the off and get an early goal, Hugh pressure will mount on Forest, they know we are good at seeing out games, and a defence to die for.
Another plus for us is the V.A.R, it is very handy to have, when you have bent refs and not get the important decisions you deserve.
If we win and go up, would we become a yo-yo club?
I could live with that.
Not sure if there are any stats but generally the team that is already the better equipped on the field to play in the premier league wins the play off. We were better equipped than reading, I think forest are better equipped than us. Just.
Dear.. my brother in law (#nffc fan) purchased his Wembley ticket for the game v #htafc.. and received an email from a supporters group with a printable lyrics sheet for their big day.. even #dcfc fans wouldnt stoop so low..
Probably fake bollocks - like a lot of stuff on social media nowadays.
It's a Derby fan taking the piss
Thought so. Much like the one circulating on the Forest forums where we are supposedly asking Derby fans to turn up and support us!
It is sad and shocking how much total bollocks is believed on social media nowadays. Suppose it doesn’t matter re football matters but unfortunately people believe a right load of crap on important issues as well
Still a week and a bit to go, but what’s the news on Ward? Rhodes would be a very capable stand in, but the concern is Ward not even making the bench, then Rhodes gets crocked.
With Rhodes’s strike rate, it’s probably better to have him on the pitch for 90 mins.
Whatever happens, Carlos will have a plan…
Any news on their injury list? I think they’ve got Davis back now.
Yes he's back but the rest I suspect we won't hear, be silence from both camps not giving anything away I'd suspect
My personal feeling is we need to press very high against that back 3 like Sheffield United did in the 2nd leg. They aren't the most mobile of defenders and will concede set pieces in the process. For that reason We have to start sinani Thomas for deliveries and ward to lead from the front.
Got to fancy us here. All the pressure & weight of history on Forest. They’ve bottled it once this year at Bournemouth and did their best in the semi.
Thomas got to start. Can’t carry both Holmes & Sinani as we did against Luton in the second leg.
Play Pipa for his pace over Turton. Big pitch at Wembley.
Was also thinking that we have one big factor in our favour. Carlos on the touch line - far better looking than Cooper. You saw it when Forest blew it against Bournemouth - players looking to the touchline and seeing Cooper next to Parker, who I think is a very good looking geezer, and you could see their heads drop. Those are the fine margins that can make the difference.
It's not exactly going well for Gareth 'I'm a handsome lion" Ainsworth
The pressure and weight of expectation is all on Forest from their own fans and the media. Lots of social media posts trying to wind Town fans up about how many tickets we’ve sold etc.
For me, we go down there as underdogs despite our experiences. This should suit us. Whatever happens, all the social media posts, sound bites, media snipes mean jack; the result on the pitch is what matters and if we shithouse a 1-0 win, NO-ONE and NOTHING can change that we would be winners in the history books.
We need to press high, I think we’ll do it in waves but not sustained like the blades did - that’s too high risk for Carlos now.
The blades were very aggressive and that completely rattled Forest. Would like us to match that but I don’t think we’ve got that in us.
Johnson does not like a scrap, looked like he was going to start crying when he was getting kicked. We need to get on his touch and have him playing with his back to goal.
So I've read a lot about the pitch size, and seen as Britain's Got Talent is complete shite then I looked it up...
The Wembley pitch is 105 x 68.
Ours iis 105 x 69
City Ground is 105 x 71
I Don't know how or if that helps
Pressure is all on them with this "premier league exiles" bullshit
Plus we've been to the prem recently and we know its a bit shit
My prediction - Town win and loads of pissed off media and football elites
Sorba has to start,its a one off game and we need to start the game with our strongest team.Forest will come out firing and we need to do the same,f**k this saving players its shit or bust so get out there and go for the jugular
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Reasonably fair comments and a general realisation that the sides are pretty equal, surprised how much credit some give us.
The eye opening one though is those stats about their past final appearances.
Played 4 scored 0 and been promoted 3 times
That is absolutely bonkers. I would be surprised if more than 1 goal is scored in 90 mins.
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(22-05-2022, 09:35 PM)Username Wrote: Didn’t realise this:
The Wembley pitch is 105 x 68.
Ours iis 105 x 69
City Ground is 105 x 71
I know it's :off: but Apparently, the pitch at Anfield is one of the three smallest pitches in the PL, with Leicester and Palace making up the other two.
Man City has the largest, followed closely by Man Utd
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It's The Final Countdown Continued..........
Huddersfield Fans Pre Match Comments......
3-0 Town.
Sorba 12'
Holmes 28'
Toffolo 49'
Forest fans have a shit day watching their team get pumped and we ruin the party atmosphere in the Sky studio completely.
We should bring Schindler back for this game then in that case, to stand on the touchline and make smouldering eyes at the Forest players. Job done lads.
Think our ace card is Tino. If you were there at Coventry when he came on against a very good side he blew them away. Unplayable
Notice carlos has kept him away for a while but that lad is a game changer and typically forest cannot do any homework on him as he is a totally unknown quantity.
I would not be at all surprised to see him start and forest players and management left scratching their heads how to deal with him.
Football now is all about preparing and knowing the opponents just as much as your own tactics. How do you prepare against someone who hasn't played much?
I am not particularly worried about the Forest game. We lose, so what, great season really proud and competitive football next year.
I have a feeling we will win however as Carlos will tactically out think and plan Cooper, just like he has done at least once to every manager since November.
From Carlos’ perspective Tino probably doesn’t give us enough defensively to start, doesn’t look like he’ll track his runner up and down for 90 minutes.
Think he’ll be seen as a bit of a risk - Carlos likes to soak up early pressure and then hit them late on. If we’re down at half time then it probably won’t be long before he gets brought on.
Would love to see him get plenty of time because like you say he was dynamite at Coventry.
Agree on having confidence in CC and his tactical superiority
Worry about Tino though, true he made a big impact at Coventry, but there were quite a few games in which he had no impact at all
I feel I’m in the Luxurious position of being very relaxed about either outcome. If we win and go up, great! But if we don’t and stay in the Championship, then that’s absolutely fine also. Add the financial boost that we’ll get whatever, it takes any pressure off for me. And in general, I think all the pressure will be on Forest. We’ve been there and done that recently. It’s a long long time since The Trees have. Whatever happens, Thankyou HTAFC for a very enjoyable season.
All the same you dont get to play off finals and not be bothered if you lose, if we dont win i'll be disappointed for sure, but probably not as much as any Florist supporter if they dont win, its their biggest day for years bless em, to us the playoffs are water off a ducks back, and we're quite good at them.
I don't like Forest but I'm finding the wind up stuff on twitter extremely embarassing from both sides.
Most of it isn't remotely funny.
Don’t read it then. It’s like saying I can’t stand The Sun, whilst reading The Sun.
Ward should be fit for the final all been well!
How is garners injury at forest?
We have just endured Sunderland week on Talksport and I notice Forest week started bright and early this morning. What an embarrasing bunch of shits they are
Well at this time a week today here’s hoping that our wonderful beautiful footy club Huddersfield Town have chopped down The Tretards of Nottingham Forest and are back in The Premier League -
This very time next week - Let’s Live the Dream
We'll defend and sit deep for the first half. They may score... they may not. 0-0 or 0-1 is OK at half time. The second half will be ours.
I reckon 1-1 into extra time and then I have no idea
Town Sponge. Suck it up and score 1-0 in 90 mins.
They've done well under Cooper. A few wobbles in recent weeks though.
They are for the taking!
It's too hard to call this one, it could go either way. I have a sneaky feeling that Forest will beat us, but it will be a decent game. Heart says Town obviously.
To see town go to the PL, not once, but twice...especially in a fairly short space of time... heffin dream!
I think we’ll be playing the officials as well. Big money wants Forest in the PL and will be putting pressure on the ref to ensure it. Wouldn’t be surprised to see a Town player sent off or another dodgy penalty awarded against us.
A sending off would be Towns' first this season, and would ruin the game as a spectacle for the viewers on Sky.
Forest can win games with minimal possession, so Town relying on this to stifle them isn't going to work, we need a plan. A recent game v Swansea saw 30% possession for Forest but they won 5-1, and could/should have been a lot more. Their power is pace, penitration and people who can shoot on target. Our back line will be tested, as will our wide midfield players. Swansea played 4 at the back and 2 sat in front , with 3 across midfield..it didn't help them.
Whether Cooper will play the same way, or become a bit more reserved in the final..don't know but if Town think a defensive ring across our box will work well they can hammer them in from 20 yards out too.
I'm no master tactician and like you think it's hard to call but we have to be 100% on our game ..Carlos and his team will be running through the possible permutations this week. I think our left flank is the strongest with Toffs, O'Brien and Thomas,central midfield I'm still not sure on Russell or Antorin...Sinani seems to have perked up and of course there's Hogg. Our right flank though..Turton or Pipa ? Holmes...
Ultimately it may be we have most possession, play lots of good inter-passing football but Forest punish us for wayward passing and sting us on the break... I hope not obviously, and I hope Forest have an off day...and that the ref calls out the gamesmanship Forest are quite good at too.
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They’ve not had someone sent off all season, that must be quite rare
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(23-05-2022, 09:54 PM)Username Wrote: They’ve not had someone sent off all season, that must be quite rare
We haven't had that many either have we?
I can't remember the last time we went down to 10 men, excluding through injury, which doesnt count
Quick edit:- Samba got sent off didn't he!
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