Nottingham Forest - Middlesbrough

[Derby My Arse]

it all started when lamouchi played mir against wigan

I can see that Lolley needs taking out but to take both him and Grabban out against Millwall, and go to a back 3 as well was a shocking managerial decision.

I think it shocked the manager that the players were not able to carry it out.

At least he reversed it at half time and came within 2 minutes of winning the game.

Lets not turn on the manager FFS.

[Paplane]

it all started when lamouchi played mir against wigan

I can see that Lolley needs taking out but to take both him and Grabban out against Millwall, and go to a back 3 as well was a shocking managerial decision.

I think it shocked the manager that the players were not able to carry it out.

At least he reversed it at half time and came within 2 minutes of winning the game.

Lets not turn on the manager FFS.

No, we shouldn't, definitely not but we can debate the ins and outs of the decisions he makes. We have to remember this is Sabri's first experience of our annual December slump. We're all use to thing and know it's coming but it's his first time. What he probably does realise is this is also the time of the year when the owner begins to select next years manager! He might be feeling a bit of pressure for the first time with us.

If I were him, due to the lack of options, I'd play the same starting team as last night (assuming Riberio and Sow are still injured), and hope Wednesday play a more expansive game.

[Derby My Arse]

it all started when lamouchi played mir against wigan

I can see that Lolley needs taking out but to take both him and Grabban out against Millwall, and go to a back 3 as well was a shocking managerial decision.

I think it shocked the manager that the players were not able to carry it out.

At least he reversed it at half time and came within 2 minutes of winning the game.

Lets not turn on the manager FFS.

No, we shouldn't, definitely not but we can debate the ins and outs of the decisions he makes. We have to remember this is Sabri's first experience of our annual December slump. We're all use to thing and know it's coming but it's his first time. What he probably does realise is this is also the time of the year when the owner begins to select next years manager! He might be feeling a bit of pressure for the first time with us.

If I were him, due to the lack of options, I'd play the same starting team as last night (assuming Riberio and Sow are still injured), and hope Wednesday play a more expansive game.

Of course Paplane. No worries. I wasn't having a go at you. I have seen one or two people having a go at the manager on social media and it got my back up a bit.

[optimistic_red]

Very disappointed with last night's game, but mainly because Boro are not a good team and we should have won it easy.

Could have/should have been 2 or 3 up at half time then the game is over.

Lamouchi took off our best players (Ameobi was great) and we didn't play as well afterwards.

Boro were always talking to the ref, we don't. Is it a surprised that they get more decisions. Quality of refs in Championship is bad, but other teams do more to exploit it.

I'm still positive about the season, and happy with owners and manager. I don't expect to win every game, and without the disappointment last night there is no joy at the next win.

[Paplane]

it all started when lamouchi played mir against wigan

I can see that Lolley needs taking out but to take both him and Grabban out against Millwall, and go to a back 3 as well was a shocking managerial decision.

I think it shocked the manager that the players were not able to carry it out.

At least he reversed it at half time and came within 2 minutes of winning the game.

Lets not turn on the manager FFS.

No, we shouldn't, definitely not but we can debate the ins and outs of the decisions he makes. We have to remember this is Sabri's first experience of our annual December slump. We're all use to thing and know it's coming but it's his first time. What he probably does realise is this is also the time of the year when the owner begins to select next years manager! He might be feeling a bit of pressure for the first time with us.

If I were him, due to the lack of options, I'd play the same starting team as last night (assuming Riberio and Sow are still injured), and hope Wednesday play a more expansive game.

Of course Paplane. No worries. I wasn't having a go at you. I have seen one or two people having a go at the manager on social media and it got my back up a bit.

I know you weren't chap. People just want to voice their disappointment but I agree digging out the manager is wrong, especially as he's been a breath of fresh air this season. I tend to go through phases. I'm really peeved this morning but come Saturday I'll be up for it again and thinking we can catch Leeds if we win and put a run together.

[Jean_claude_killy]

I find some of the reactions surprising and lacking perspective.

Players have bad games and managers make mistakes; that happens at every club, not just ours.

We look a far better team away than we do at home, and it has been that way all season.

We have a limited squad, which is paper thin in some areas, who have performed way above most peoples expectations this season.

The manager has been here just over 5 months, Modesti around a year and Anigo considerably less; on top of that we have a good few new players and others playing in new positions.

When you take all of that into account, being in the top 6 at this stage of the season is a remarkable achievement.

We have money to spend next month and it looks like we will be spending it; if next months acquisitions are as good, or better than those in the Summer, we are set for a good end to the season.

The two teams pulling away at the top have at lease 12 months start on us in terms of building a team, so it should come as no surprise they are doing well.

That should not detract from the fact that we are doing very well.

[McDurban]

Folks still demanding a new contract for Lamouchi?

Of course TPL. We are having a wobble. Surely we are not blaming the manager are we?

To be fair to Lamouchi, this wobble is much better than the wobbles of past. And of the other teams who are wobbling at this time. 

Sabri in.

Yeah, two late draws from a winning position is not much of a wobble.
I'm not viewing this a drastically as some.
Three points would have been great but we are still a decent team with issues in the box, caused mostly by reliance on one very good CF, with no alternative option.
Our defence is for the post part consistent with a couple of mishaps that have thwarted us.
We are not being played off the park by anyone and often pose a bigger threat that the teams we play.
Small tweaks in January and we will be good for the play offs.

• 6'4 center forward
  
• Recall Walker
  
• Winger competition for Lolley
  
• RB competition for Cash if no sign of Jenkinson returning 
  

[the jock]

we are 16th in the table for home form.

[Alf Garnett]

I am a bit disappointed this morning after failing to beat Middlesbrough but not worried.

Having said that we have to improve especially at home.

Not really good enough failing to beat the likes of Wigan, Hull, Blackburn, Cardiff, Middlesbrough, Millwall if the truth is known.

But we are still up there and if it's any consolation none of our play off rivals are on fire either.

[Strawberry Avenger]

I find some of the reactions surprising and lacking perspective.

Players have bad games and managers make mistakes; that happens at every club, not just ours.

We look a far better team away than we do at home, and it has been that way all season.

We have a limited squad, which is paper thin in some areas, who have performed way above most peoples expectations this season.

The manager has been here just over 5 months, Modesti around a year and Anigo considerably less; on top of that we have a good few new players and others playing in new positions.

When you take all of that into account, being in the top 6 at this stage of the season is a remarkable achievement.

We have money to spend next month and it looks like we will be spending it; if next months acquisitions are as good, or better than those in the Summer, we are set for a good end to the season.

The two teams pulling away at the top have at lease 12 months start on us in terms of building a team, so it should come as no surprise they are doing well.

That should not detract from the fact that we are doing very well.

I can't argue with any of that.  It's true.

The teams above Forest have been 'holding it right' for longer.

That won't stop the frustration with not being able to hold on to the lead to see out the game for a few mins in Millwall and Boro'.  It cost 4 points.  That said.  Forest would still be facing chasing down that large gap off Leeds.

I'm sure The Coach would like to have these fixtures 'back.'  

Wigan.  Hull.  

Cardiff.  Millwall.  Boro'.

And as Night follows Day Forest's Dark December stalls any hopes of progress to the top 2 as WBA and Leeds pull away as they deserve to.  They've stuck with it longer.  Been run better longer.  Forest are just emerging from the Dark Ages as Marinakos take a two by four to the previous resignation.

Those disappointing fixtures will inform January recruitment to add depth in the 'paper thin' areas.

Today is 'disappointing.'

But as the lady once said, 'I'll always have Tara and tomorrow is another day.'

SA.

[zicorice]

i think its time to cash in on carvalho if an offers on the table. seen enough now to be honest.
semedo too is a bit of a donkey

Last minute last night, we had a free kick in a dangerous position and Carvalho put it straight into the keepers arms. I was pulling my hair out. Infuriating.

I saw it a tad differently. I thought it was a decent ball across the near post, but no one attacked near post. Before he took We were actually saying, they've left alot of space at the near post. Granted somehow it needed communicating what was happening.

Or maybe it was meant to be aimed at the overcrowded back post and was a rubbish cross. Past caring or looking for scape goats. We scored, stopped playing and lost 2 points.

[Alf]

I find some of the reactions surprising and lacking perspective.

Players have bad games and managers make mistakes; that happens at every club, not just ours.

We look a far better team away than we do at home, and it has been that way all season.

We have a limited squad, which is paper thin in some areas, who have performed way above most peoples expectations this season.

The manager has been here just over 5 months, Modesti around a year and Anigo considerably less; on top of that we have a good few new players and others playing in new positions.

When you take all of that into account, being in the top 6 at this stage of the season is a remarkable achievement.

We have money to spend next month and it looks like we will be spending it; if next months acquisitions are as good, or better than those in the Summer, we are set for a good end to the season.

The two teams pulling away at the top have at lease 12 months start on us in terms of building a team, so it should come as no surprise they are doing well.

That should not detract from the fact that we are doing very well.

Trouble is mate unless everyone pulls their fingers out, those you mention won't get another 5 months. 

The other perspective is that Daws & Watson will be even older next year, and now's the time to capitalize on their good form, before they need replacing. 

Hopefully Jan should take us to another level, but what was required to take us to another level has been blindingly obvious for several windows now, and the club have failed to address said weak areas.

Hell, we lack pace and who did the club sell? Appiah. So we could spend a shed load of wages training other club's crap kids up like Mir & Muric.