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(07-02-2020, 09:14 PM)Joe Baker Legend Wrote: Forest v Leeds 8-2-2020
Pre Match Comments....
Possession is the name of the game. If you have 70% possession then the opposition have only 30% of the time to score. If you don't have the ball then you can't score... simples. You also have more than double the chances of scoring if you are able to take your chances.
spot on, thanks very much for our 30%
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They were soooooo quiet today.
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Bless them and their obsession with possession. Means nothing if you don’t create chances and take chances.
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Reds v Weeds
Match Comments....
Dallas in cm.
Boaking already.
Terrific atmosphere tonight.
Come on lads!!!
Dallas begins on the right.
Ayling CM
Ali on the left
Why are we so scared to shoot outside the box ? Costa could have easily pulled the trigger there
Grabban waltzs into our box going past Alio like he wasn't there
Forest have two big forwards.
Shot from 35 yards but Kiko gets right behind it and tidies up after dropping it in front of him
Ali playing poorly, loses out again and should have been booked.
Bit worried about Alio down the left today
Corner to them.
This left hand side looks weak.
Corner for Forest...
Overhit, falls to the edge of the box, good save from Casilla. Another corner for Forest.
Phew good save from Kiko after we should gave conceded a pen.
Cooper losing out on the physical battle.Wrestles Worrel to the deck
15 minutes gone
Forest having plenty of the ball, better of the chances so far
Yeah Alio very lucky not to be booked..But then they should have been booked in the first two for the foul on Pablo. Ref trying not to go the yellow route
Ali is a liability,it here, fouks Ameobi again.
Not a pen for me. The forward pushing Coop to get to the ball. Coop pushing back 50/50 challenge. Coop had position
Pablo clipped late by Sow, worst of the lot. Should be in the book.
70% posession for Leeds but not had a shot yet.
Forest had 6, 2 on target.
Another promising attack ends with Dallas, not having a great game atm
Good break down the right, cut back and out for a corner to Leeds...
Cleared by Forest.
Nice cross into the box, Bamford free, heads to a defender.
Not to bash him but... he should have done better.
Nice attacking from Leeds, Pablo pulls back to Alio, deflected wide.
Corner to Leeds... punched clear... out to Alio but over.
Same old Kiko
Drop this effing liability.
FOREST GOAL - Forest 1, Leeds United 0
Ameobi at the near post, Kiko should be doing better there.
No surprise really....
So here we go chasing the game because of the goal keeper.
We had actually taken command of the game, silenced the crowd and were looking more likely.
How many more times is Casilla going to allow himself to be beaten at the near post?
Poor keeping from kiko...now there's a shock!
Same boring wasteful play as always, nothing will change and we will slowly slip into the mystery of the playoffs where who knows what will happen!
We will never get promoted with that clown in goal and bamford up front. How can bielsa not see this ?
Yep that was a Kiko error but the defence, which has been re-arranged yet again, also fails
Dallas booked for a late lunge on Ameobi
We need to get to HT for the inspirational talk.
Bamford misses a chance, Kiko lets on in at his near post.
Same old story!
Nothing going on up front at all, its embarrasing how much better we are than forest all over the pitch apart from where it matters.
Not sure what we can do to change this but we dont like scoring here.
We will never go up with the clown MB, sorry has no idea about English football
Kiko throws it straight to Watson.
Another clown moment from Kiko ffs
Shocking football on display at times.
Now we are going long.
See that's where we disagree, I think we have some of the best players in the division...
Goal before half time would be really useful here lads
We are so static.
Casilla has to go
Are you suggesting that we have square pegs in round holes on the pitch today faaip?
HALF TIME - Notthingham Forest 1, Leeds United 0
That was fecking terrible
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What a bunch of arseholes lacking any sight of intelligence.
Probably the most ridiculous comments I’ve seen from opposition fans since this thread started.
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Forest v Weeds
Halftime Talk....
Not for Bielsa ball..but where he and I differ is you never swap your defence around. Golden Rule
Last season thrown away, not learnt his lesson, still playing the donkey up front, won 2 of the last 10, still will not change the team, did not buy in pre season, goal scorer still on the bench, please
Seems as though at least one person's forgot about Millwall and Brum. We're going to win this.
Not good despite all the possession
Casilla - 4
Ayling - 5 - No idea where he's playing tbh - looks like central defence most of the time
Alioski - 6 - Is giving us some energy after a dodgy start
White - 7
Coop - 6
Dallas - 4 - Very wasteful and booked
Klich - 7 - Playing well but it's going to waste
Costa - 6 - Has flashed
Hernandez - 5 - Really don't like where he's playing, it negates him
Harrison - 5 - Not getting into it today
Bamford - 1
I cant be arsed with this anymore, I'm far too emotionally invested in this crap for my own good. It's clear as good as bielsa is at coaching he is now out of ideas, playing the same team every week with the same tactics for every team is poor and will again cost us promotion. Pfff time to rebuild again
After Brentford you'll have k's agreeing mate
Ok. Now we get the....we are the best team, unlucky to be behind, one mistake from Kiko, -. Now the reality. ...we cannot control the ball up front, we have not troubled their keeper once infact he may as well go home, it is very aimless and I genuinely believe our players are just hoping for a lucky own goal ...again. So so predictable and if I can see that so can all the managers in the league. This is what happens when the style of play doesn't change from one game to the next. Kiko should be dropped for a horrendous error but the short comings up front are as clear as day. Big improvement needed or playoffs at best.
We are not playing well, we now have 45 mins to turn this round, hopefully Forest will tire and we can dominate them, but I can see 45 mins of time wasting coming up
This is boring.
Being saying that for ages. I'm ready to be blown away 2nd half.
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08-02-2020, 11:24 PM
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Forest v Weeds
2nd Half Comments.....
Harrison falling on his arse, has he made a cross yet?
Seems tired.
Bamford shields it out for a goal kick... at their end haha
He really.is utter dogshit
Least number of touches in first half
We were all over Millwall though, aside from the first 5 minutes. Forest are the ones that have been creating the chances here.
Some terrible passing, and now we throw the ball straight out for a goal kick
Bamford and Dallas are having a shocker
Only 10 mins until we see JKA?
Forest break, should score, Kiko saves from Grabban. Was straight at Kiko, who was sat on the floor.
We should be two down there.
Grab an misses a sitter.
But Kiko had already fallen over...
Kiko and Bamford should swap,places.
Quite frankly we are pure shite at the moment. Lose this and I'm writing the season off. Bielsa, great coach but a s**t manager
Ali booked and they have a FC on the edge of the box.
Pressure.
Alio gives a free kick on the edge of the area, yellow card...
Kiko punches clear. Forest really coming at us now
Kiko parried it, thankfully it gets cleared.
Corner.
This could kill of the game.
Roberts coming on.
Bamford BLOCKS Harrisons shot.
Get out if my life!!!!!!!
Cooper swearing at his players and NOT boosting them. V poor captain
Bamford blocks Harrisons shot, and he's offside
58' LEEDS SUB - Roberts on for Hernandez
Corner Leeds...
Didn't clear the first man, out for a Leeds throw.
Forest the first team to out play us this season so far...did someone say they're not very good.
Klich outstanding again, keeps it simple always finds his target
I think er have a goal in us.
Ogy is warming up...
I just don't see us coming back into this.
They are stronger than us, pressing us well, break well and are creating chances.
Big Kev coming on...
JKA is coming on.
But we are playing so poorly he will have to walk the ball into the net.
Corner.
Alioski has been dreadful and has been for ages at left back. Should have been sent off there.
The same old pass it around a bit and then punt a ball aimlessly into the box to a striker who can't get on the end of it, and repeat.
I have never saw such poor passing from a Leeds team
How does Grabban get the better of Roberts there?
Shacks and JKA coming on
Hope Alio gets off before he gets sent off.
Better a bit more zip in JKA going forward.
Been fooking awful please let it change soon
Free kick given away by White 40 yards out...
Wide
20 mins to save the season?
Passing today has been awful, not even when we've been under pressure either
Cooper free header but how does it not go in?
We've not had a shot on target yet. Lol
Cooper header from a corver, cleared off the line at the second attempt by the keeper!
Free header. Right at the keeper
We will be out of auto come Tuesday night, we are so static and one dimensional
We should score more from corners, Cooper and White should be chipping in with a few. Plenty been headed straight at the keeper like that one.
How many points has KP cost us by getting himself sent off? Guess we've missed him.
We were s**t before he got banned to be fair.
We actually won the first game he was banned.
On the line, that will save a few of our perennial rose tinted glasses contributors.
This! What an awful header! Keeper almost fumbled it in tho somehow
Forests offside strategy is working a treat.
Worst game Harrison has played all season.
Contender for worst game of the season for at least 9 of them out there
So another GK error costing us.
I just can't believe what a carbon copy of last years capitulation we are seeing. Deja Vu all over again!
Klich drives across the goal but no cigar.
Forest breaking against us today like we usually do to teams
I'll be honest. Not sure I've seen us break against a team in the entire 2 years under bielsa. It's always back to the keeper, slow build up, give time for them to get back in position, then attack..
Jka is quality.
We prob wont see it for a month or so but those wee flashes there give me hope.
Awful, Awful and awful
Nope our playing style iss the opposite of quick counter attacking breaks.
Against arsenal in that first half maybe a bit tbf
We could be outside the plays off places by the end of next week, Bielsa isn't staying next season let's get rid now and see where the next guy takes us. Could it be worse than we have seen the last 10 games? I doubt it.
Harrison caught out, loses the ball...
Forest attack with two v Kiko, 2-0
Why is Jack Harrison the last man?
Well that was dreadful. Dare to say id prefer if we just played a normal style of football again and didn't have to suffer the same struggle to score goals every game.
Also that was embarrassing whoever shambles that up at the end
Harrison trying to do a flick as last man
FULL TIME - Forest 2, Leeds United 0
That was awful Leeds, Outplayed, outfought, out of ideas.
Shack, Ian P, JKA, Messi, I think there is a case for more than one of them to start.
On the other hand its against Brentford (Sheff Utd last year) so we will probably see KP and maybe JKA at the most.
I wish I supported Liverpool!
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08-02-2020, 11:37 PM
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Forest v Weeds
Post Match Comments......
Unlucky from Harrison, done the right thing trying to beat the 2 forest attackers and setup another attack. Could have just sent it back to Kiko but that's not the Leeds way.
Time for change
Bielsa doesn't do change unfortunately.
Three changes for Brentford...
Meslier, Phillips and Augustin in!
There will be alot of emotive talk after this result but we are still 2ND in a tight pack of average teams, including us. Obviously we need a win to help us to stay in the pack. To be fair not much else Bielsa could have done tonight
That was as poor as I’ve seen us. Phillips coming back will be a plus. Augustin being deemed fit enough for the bench should mean he will play more.
Tough one to take and things look bleak but we are too good to throw in the towel. It’s not like us to look so blunt, we will be better and here’s hoping Augustin can fire us up, big powerful looking lad
Phillips still has another game to miss.
Thought it was a three game ban?
Millwall
Wigan
Forest
Last two games it just dosnt look like we will ever score, could still be playing tomorrow morning and not fashioned a shot on target from open play. Front 3 need changing up. Bamford obviously is a complete waste of space and Harrison and costa cant beat the first man with a cross.
I'd drop all 3 of them. Get hernandez on the right, poveda through the middle, jka upfront and Robert's on the left. Philip's coming back so drop Dallas or move to left back.
Awful game first time for a while I've stopped watching as I already know we're incapable of
faaip wrote:Forest the first team to out play us this season so far...did someone say they're not very good.
They didn't need to be did they let's face it.
I guess that's what happens when the players playing good football are played out of position or just have poor games. Poor game for Jack but his first really poor game of the season. White had an off day too. Dallas very poor today, never seen him quite that wasteful. Kiko actually fairly good outside of the howler.
Is that 4 defeats in 5? ...
Going to be tough to turn this around now I have to say and we're getting to the point where it's only new blood that will kick start that imo. Will be interesting to know why no Poveda on the bench.
Casilla - 5 - 2 cracking saves, one opportunist save, one howler
Ayling - 8 - Best player in the second half, really the only one to drive us forward
Alioski - 6 - I'd have kept him on and taken Jack off..pushed him up
White - 6 - Some poor passing from him today plus a booking, decent in defence
Cooper - 4 - Poor today for me, especially as a captain
Dallas - 3 - Very very wasteful, attacks went to die there
Hernandez - 6 - Radar was off bar one nice cross. Really don;t think he's a centre or attacking mid
Harrison - 6 - A real curates egg, so good some bloody awful, gets a bit of a pass because his recent form has been outstanding
Costa - 6 - Lively, struggles without an outlet
Bamford - 0 - Rank
Klich - 8 - MOTM - Just did his job while most everyone else failed for the most part today
Shackleton - 7 - I like, good player hopefully sees more game time
Roberts - 6 - Couldn't get into the game, Shackleton looks a better prospect
JK - 7 - Promising first 15 or whatever it was, now needs to establish partnerships with his wingers.
So you're blaming a guy who wasn't playing for such a dire performance. If one man makes a team then we will be playing championship football until non if us are around.
Cooper was poor, Lolley made him look daft when Grabbam should have scored.
He will never be a promotion level cb.
Last year - QPR Wigan then needing to beat our 2 closest competitors Norwich and Blades. We failed.
Now we are doing the same again and it is painful.
I guess KP will be back next week and we have missed him. Alio looked a huge liability today, should have been sent off too. The time to drop Kiko is probably right. Bamford should sit.
Also there's really nothing stopping you. You wouldn't be the first and you won't be the last. I know 4 people down here in leafy Surrey that switched from Leeds to Chelsea when we got relegated. We all used to go to SB every season to see the game. Haven't seen them in years now. I'm the last one left.
I'm saying that I think we are more reliant on KP than I thought we were. I'm attributing his absence as a contributing factor to why we were 'dire' as you say. Maybe Klich would have created more chances if KP had been there playing in his normal position and Klich had been in his.
Watching Bielsa post match interview...f**k me if I had to listen to this everyday I'd struggle to play any good as well
I listened to 5 minutes of one MB presser when he first arrived and thought this is intelligible and never listen since. My guess is the reporter asks the question, something gets lost in the translation, Bielsa starts a speech and then something gets lost in the translation...
Surely this not good for players having to sit through it and try to understand him. The half time team talk must seem like University Challenge to all of them ! I'm losing my belief in the guy and he quickly needs to pull something out of the bag before the crowds turn on him...we all know it will happen eventually
I did say I feared for us after SKY showed all our misses against Wigan and then the goals from Forests last three games. Banging them in for fun they were....
Outplayed by a side that most of their own fans don't know how they win games. Damming indictment of our lot isn't it.
If the same team gets put out against Brentford you'd have to say Bielsa has gone completely barmy. Good job he's not Hecky or TC.
I said all I had to say last week, so won't be wasting further energy on these clowns. Maybe some posters will see that I'm not "negative" just honest.
Absolutely fuming, gutted, hurting and pissed off this was worse than loosing against Wigan at least we were the better team then, tonight was poor, the players have bottled it and just don’t have an idea how to score or defend
Got to make changes against Brentford but I don’t think Bielsa will
Kiko drop for Meslier
Costa drop for Little Ian
Bamford drop for anyone including the ball boy but preferably Big Kev
Dallas drop for Kalvin - difficult choice as he’s been one of our better players this season but we need to change things up
Please Bielsa do something now before we become the bottlers the entire league hopes we are
Their big DMF hacked down Pablo early, then committed another bad foul, then another one before he got booked for a fourth.
He should have been off first had the ref brandished reds
Several fans believe Bielsa will walk if the results don't pick-up in the next few games
Embarrassing if he does. He's the one refusing to change anything.
Before xmas that would have worried me, now I'm not so sure it bothers me that much, he needs to pull his head out of his ass, and see his system isn't working AGAIN !
Losing Bielsa before the end of the season would be a disaster...and wrong. What is needed is Marcelo to have a small rethink
Heads the ball as if he has a head like a 50p piece
Awful game, the guy needs dropping. Not a leader, the Cooper of old has returned.
Won't happen of course because some players can play badly & are undroppable
Leon I feel for you, like so many others wearing your heart on your sleeve week in week out. Cheering on the team. Working hard to keep this forum alive.
If you had two things to change now, what would you do?
As you travelled back tonight, what were they saying?
I've been told Marcelo is a genius, so it should only be a very quick rethink.
How is it that a lot of us dummies see what looks like some major problems but he hasn't seen the same or maybe more accurately, hasn't changed anything to correct it?
Our form tells the truth.
BTW I know we are still 2nd but we were double digits ahead of 3rd place a short while ago. We should be concerned.
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Outplayed by a side that most of their own fans don't know how they win games. Damming indictment of our lot isn't it?
I don't completely understand how we are a couple of points from top, i also don't know how every minute seems like 10, it's fascinating though
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Surprised how honest many of them were. A significant proportion of their fans are completely deluded kn@bheads at the games.
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must be soul destroying to be 10 points clear of 3rd and then only pick up 4 points from 18, the Brentford v Leeds game on paper could be a classic, though i can only see another leeds defeat
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