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30-08-2021, 01:38 PM
Fawaz and Emad:
Unpaid wages.
Unpaid Taxes.
Unpaid catering and work contractors.
Unpaid Pizzas at Brighton.
No safety certificate for the ground.
Ground badly decaying.
Transfer embargo.
Failure to pay installments on transfer fees.
Winding up orders.
Sold Lascelles and Darlow behind the managers back.
Selling Ollie Burke behind Montanier's back.
Stole the FA Cup from the trophy cabinet.
Club one breath from death.
EM and IV.
Some bad recruitment.
You decide...
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(30-08-2021, 01:38 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Fawaz and Emad:
Unpaid wages.
Unpaid Taxes.
Unpaid catering and work contractors.
Unpaid Pizzas at Brighton.
No safety certificate for the ground.
Ground badly decaying.
Transfer embargo.
Failure to pay installments on transfer fees.
Winding up orders.
Sold Lascelles and Darlow behind the managers back.
Selling Ollie Burke behind Montanier's back.
Stole the FA Cup from the trophy cabinet.
Club one breath from death.
Banned all local media from the ground
Billy Davies Mark 2 (Pork pie race anyone????)
and dodgy Brother-in Law
Bought Zach Clough
Well dodgy portrait of him and Cloughie
Embarrassment for the club every time he went on Twatter
Banned club legends from the club i.e Frank Clark, Kenny Burns
He did buy 2 TV's for the ground and had a digital advertising board put up around the pitch though
EM and IV.
Some bad recruitment.
You decide...
just added a couple you overlooked Sniff
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30-08-2021, 01:51 PM
(This post was last modified: 30-08-2021, 01:57 PM by Alf.)
That's not really a fair list is it chaps?
As bad as Fawaz was, we never had any senior staff arrested on suspicion of carrying out organized gang extortion under him. Unlike EM.
Despite his mistakes I still think EM's been a better owner, and has the potential to restore this club to a much better place. By appointing Murphy he seems to address his mistakes, and quicker than any of our previous 2 owners too. I hope the fans can learn to appreciate him a bit more when the relegation issue (hopefully) subsides.
But let's not paint a false picture either. There's been more negatives to his time here than just bad recruitment.
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Comparing EM to Fawaz is comparing something that had a very low bar to start with.
Off field has been much better under EM, on field not a huge amount of difference.
Fawaz left us with a poor squad, and 4 yrs on we still have a poor squad, closer to relegation than promotion.
EM thought he could throw a lot of money in first 3 yrs, sign players with past history of promotion and success in this league and get promoted.
That didn’t work, and now plan B in place.
In hindsight plan B should have been Plan A
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That was nothing to do with Football Alf so not sure why you are mentioning that. Obviously out of desperation.
The person you are referring to do you know that his son was murdered? How would you react in a situation like that? Like I said though it was nothing to do with football or with Nottingham Forest so in my eyes your point is not valid (sorry).
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(30-08-2021, 02:03 PM)Reds73 Wrote: Comparing EM to Fawaz is comparing something that had a very low bar to start with.
Off field has been much better under EM, on field not a huge amount of difference.
Fawaz left us with a poor squad, and 4 yrs on we still have a poor squad, closer to relegation than promotion.
EM thought he could throw a lot of money in first 3 yrs, sign players with past history of promotion and success in this league and get promoted.
That didn’t work, and now plan B in place.
In hindsight plan B should have been Plan A
Is it only the squad that is important Reds?
Everything else just gets swept under the carpet because EM and IV did it better so it doesn't count?
Do we have to focus only on squad and league position?
How about putting some focus on this:
No EM and no IV then the chances are there would be no Nottingham Forest now.
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(30-08-2021, 02:04 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: That was nothing to do with Football Alf so not sure why you are mentioning that. Obviously out of desperation.
The person you are referring to do you know that his son was murdered? How would you react in a situation like that? Like I said though it was nothing to do with football or with Nottingham Forest so in my eyes your point is not valid (sorry).
Sniff, if anyone's coming across as desperate today mate it's you. You seem to be on some type of ultra defensive about any criticism leveled at the current setup and situation.
As I've said in my post above, I've nothing against EM and hope he stays and does well. But there needs to be balance with the POV's, and to me employing someone with connections as murky as Anigo does have something to do with the football club.
Yes I do know his son was murdered. I'm not sure why that makes conspiring with gangs to extort people OK though?
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Alf mi owd I am not desperate at all mate.
I have all the facts here below. I rest my case. Anyone who thinks that they can argue against it is blind to put it politely.
Fawaz and Emad:
Unpaid wages.
Unpaid Taxes.
Unpaid catering and work contractors.
Unpaid Pizzas at Brighton.
No safety certificate for the ground.
Ground badly decaying.
Transfer embargo.
Failure to pay installments on transfer fees.
Winding up orders.
Sold Lascelles and Darlow behind the managers back.
Selling Ollie Burke behind Montanier's back.
Stole the FA Cup from the trophy cabinet.
Club one breath from death.
EM and IV.
Some bad recruitment.
You decide...
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what about the mothership death star? ah i see
treating legends like vermin, beaming down aliens in macs, sucking out Hughtons brain
Darth Vader or Davros ... who's the most huggable? .... you decide!
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(30-08-2021, 02:03 PM)Reds73 Wrote: Comparing EM to Fawaz is comparing something that had a very low bar to start with.
Off field has been much better under EM, on field not a huge amount of difference.
Fawaz left us with a poor squad, and 4 yrs on we still have a poor squad, closer to relegation than promotion.
EM thought he could throw a lot of money in first 3 yrs, sign players with past history of promotion and success in this league and get promoted.
That didn’t work, and now plan B in place.
In hindsight plan B should have been Plan A
A fair appraisal.
SA.
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(30-08-2021, 02:11 PM)PsychoStanleyStone Wrote: what about the mothership death star? ah i see
treating legends like vermin, beaming down aliens in macs, sucking out Hughtons brain
Darth Vader or Davros ... who's the most huggable? .... you decide!
They sucked his brain out?
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... and despite all that, 51 points was our lowest points total under Fawaz. Which came in his final season, where he was essentially absent as he tried to find a buyer.
The Greeks with all their expertise & experience, 80 odd transfers & 5 managers in 4 years took us to 52 points last season & the worst start in the clubs history this season. Although I suppose we can just blame Murphy for that.
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